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    Player JagerForrester's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    Blind =/= Bind

    And then it would be Flash + Banish or Holy, no? For Blinding Light.
    Whoops, Bind. Read that wrong. Bind + Blizzard, I could see it working for stop. But I see the combo working as it is too, binding the enemy as the mobs sits there chattering his teeth. I'll add that in as a possible combination. Thanks for the input.

    I chose Blind for the new job idea as it is less exclusive than Flash is (PLD & WHM only spell). But sure, why not.

    I didn't really add a limit to how many times you can mix the same spell for different combinations. So I might think of some limit to how many times you can fuse one spell.

    Keep the ideas coming!
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    Blind + Freeze = Blizzard. lol
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    Itemmage?

    Instead of using "Spells" what about mixing items? There's a lot more of those in the game "FFXI".

    Edit: This way you don't have to depends on "MP".
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    Last edited by Krashport; 03-21-2011 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post
    Itemmage?

    Instead of using "Spells" what about mixing items? There's a lot more of those in the game "FFXI".

    Edit: This way you don't have to depends on "MP".
    And you could use bandoliers!
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    Player JagerForrester's Avatar
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    I think that would be called an Alchemist. Unfortunately, that idea became a craft.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    I think that would be called an Alchemist. Unfortunately, that idea became a craft.
    It can still be a job, give it potion potentcies and what not, they'd use tools like a nin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    You know this dual-element talk in some of the threads is making me want to request a Transfusion Mage, a magician that can combine two spells to form a more devastating spell.

    So I'm thinking on the lines of:
    Silence + Thunder = Silent Thunder
    Silence + Aero = Silent Wind
    Thunder + Paralyze = Stun w/ DMG
    Holy/Banish + Blind/Flash = Blinding Light
    Bind/Stun + Blizzard = Stop
    Bind + Blind = Dirty Trap
    Slow + Poison = Sick & Tired
    Thunder + Water = Thunderstorm
    Fire + Water = Boiling Water

    Job Idea: Transfusion Mage

    Coming up with a Fusion System
    Let's just say it will act almost the same as BLU setting spells for Job Traits.

    Job Traits (Increasing Tiers intended)
    Fast Cast
    Magic Attack Bonus
    Clear Mind

    Job Abilities
    2Hour? (No idea yet, probably something to have fused spells more effective)
    "Induce" for creating AoE spells
    "Counter-agent" to create Bar- and -na spells.
    More to come

    Spell List(Increasing Tiers intended)
    Elements:
    Stone
    Water
    Aero
    Blizzard
    Fire
    Thunder
    Banish/Holy

    Status Effects:
    Poison
    Blind
    Bind
    Silence
    Stun
    Sleep
    Slow

    Enhancements
    Regen
    Bar- spells (Barfire, etc)
    Protect
    Shell

    Healing
    Cure



    Here's some examples made by other posters.




    I'm sure there are other discussions like this out there, so feel free to post them here!

    How are these mages going to combine spells? Well I'm thinking BLU and how they can set spells, and spending points until they reach a max limit. As TFM's level, they can spend points in fusing two of their learned spells to add a new spell to their magic list. Depending on the spells' tiers and original casting cost will depend on the fused spell's casting cost and casting time.

    This is still a thought in the making. Feel free to add if you like the idea.
    SCH right?
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    Player JagerForrester's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detoxy View Post
    SCH right?
    Well my thoughts are mixed.
    I'm thinking more a more knowledgeable BLM with the ability to mix elements.
    SCH is more of a two-sided coin, White or Black. TFM seems to be turning into taking both sides of magic and mixing them to make something new. But I might take out the Healing and Enhancement spells and focus more on Elemental and Enfeeblement.
    Some kind of RDM if you will, but without the abilities that give them the title of a "magic swordsman," and more of a "elemental spell-mixer." I will do my best not to kill RDMs with this idea.
    And I liked the idea how BLUs set their spells to get job traits, so I will add the TFM's "Fusion system" to set spells to get their exclusive spells.

    I dunno, I'm still tinkering...

    Just pardon me if I deny any potion/flask-type Alchemist ideas. I will add any ideas that pertain to mixing spells and combining elements, but Alchemists are already in the game as a craft job, not a combat job. Although I'd love the idea (Ranged-type job with potions instead of bows/arrows), that's not what I'm aiming for here in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    But I might take out the Healing and Enhancement spells and focus more on Elemental and Enfeeblement.
    Some kind of RDM if you will, but without the abilities that give them the title of a "magic swordsman," and more of a "elemental spell-mixer." I will do my best not to kill RDMs with this idea.
    And I liked the idea how BLUs set their spells to get job traits, so I will add the TFM's "Fusion system" to set spells to get their exclusive spells.
    Also not bad. I believe a couple of healing / enhancing spells wouldn't go too badly. Something like Regen + Reraise casts Amarant from FF9's Aura ability- Reraise & Regen on the party member. Possibly to balance this - the reraise has a 5 min timer on it or something so it doesn't get too potent and overpowered.

    What your explaining is kind of like a mix between a RDM and BLM - the ability to enfeeb but also do some damage.

    Obviously wouldn't be as strong as a BLM for nukes or RDM for enfeebs, however could come up with some unique status effects that only mobs currently get - like Terror / Stop for example.

    Would definitely be a support job by the sounds of it.

    I give this idea a little bit of credit.
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    I actually don't mind this idea. Original!

    But yeah agreed - give it to SCH as a job ability.

    SCH uses Transfusion > Takes you to your magic list, you then select the 2x spells you wish to mix.

    Macro's might look like this:

    Code:
    /ja "Transfusion" <me>
    /ma "Silence" <t>
    /ma "Aero" <t>
    Then it casts Silent Wind or w/e.. Perhaps an equation for MP cost as something like-
    Spell 1 MP + Spell 2 mp * 0.75.

    Meaning it would cost 75% of the total MP of the spells if casted seperately.

    The effect for Enfeeb + Elemental combination might be like a decreased resistance for the mob - so enfeebs stick, and an MAB for the Aero part. So the mob gets a heavier silence and aero with a MAB bonus casted on it.

    Recast timer of like 2-5 mins..
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