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  1. #81
    Player Kysaiana's Avatar
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    Kysaiana
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    Siren
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    SAM Lv 99
    I think I've seen exactly one shout ever that specifically asked for empyrean/relic DDs. Maybe it's just Siren, but I don't think it's a wide-spread problem of people being locked out of VW for not having one of those weapons. As far as plate price goes, of course they're set by the players. I suppose you can blame anyone that's willing to pay those prices, but that's pointless because it's just supply and demand. And the supply is far exceeded by the demand. Therefore, high-priced plates. If half the players that owned empyrean weapons actually tried to finish the trial, plate prices would sky-rocket since the demand would be that much higher.

    The biggest issue with HMPs is the supply. There simply are not enough of them in circulation or even existence for even a moderate amount of empyrean holders to ever finish the trial. The only reason any one is able to finish at all, despite the cost, is because so few are willing to bother. If everyone that had an empyrean tried to do the trial, no one would finish it. As soon as VW dies out, and it will, HMP will go the way of Alexandrite. Only, you won't be able to grab two buddies and farm them like you can with Alexandrite. And please, don't suggest the weakness items, anyone. Paying 500k, even split 3+ ways, is not a viable option for a chance at something.
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  2. #82
    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Scaevola
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    Cerberus
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    THF Lv 99
    I usually VW on a TP Bonus GK SAM, and I have never once been excluded because of gear. There have even been a few situations where I've been asked if I have a Masa/Amano and I am forced to say I don't, and they take me anyway.
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  3. #83
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Gudda
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    Phoenix
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    NIN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    I usually VW on a TP Bonus GK SAM, and I have never once been excluded because of gear. There have even been a few situations where I've been asked if I have a Masa/Amano and I am forced to say I don't, and they take me anyway.
    I usually get ignored when I tell them I don't have emp/relic. Oh and for provenance I don't even bother anymore.
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  4. #84
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Trisscar
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    Asura
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    BLU Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Crag warps are much more convenient for Zilart T3. They put you at either MG or Kirin entrance. VW warp puts you at Hall of Gods entrance in Ro'maeve.
    This, but what a lot of groups don't understand is that sky warp requires you to be at the ass end of both CoP and RotZ, and (as hard as it is to believe) there are some people out there too lazy to do the work for them (I'm not in this camp, but I digres).
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  5. #85
    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Philemon
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    Valefor
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    BRD Lv 99
    That may be true but Zilart can be done in a day and since we're talking about DDs being shunned, everybody should have a Rajas.
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  6. #86
    Player Siiri's Avatar
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    Siiri
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    Bismarck
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    WHM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I usually get ignored when I tell them I don't have emp/relic. Oh and for provenance I don't even bother anymore.
    I have been asked one time, when I replied to a shout PIL group that needed a mnk. I told them I didn't have an emp and was then ignored. They asked me no other questions. If they had they would have known I had 2 other emp jobs, provenance clear with 3 capped DD atmacites, ws, tp, impetus gear swaps, black belt, a very good weapon, and all temp items and every VW clear. I just kind of laughed. What amused me more was I had a friend in the group on blm and he dropped because they were too chicken to even tell me no. Well after he dropped I got a tell from the leader-"you have blm right? Want to come blm? " I didn't even bother to respond.

    I organized Akvan shouts off and on with a couple ls mates for a few weeks, and never once did I put a emp requirement on it. We always blazed through them with as little pickup drama as possible. I know Akvan is lol, but Pil isn't much more these days. Crazy, lucky for me I usually run VW with my ls and take my wildfire corsair. It was actually the first time I ever offered my mnk to a pickup, just because I was bored and feel its pretty good and strong with capped 3 atmacites and all temps, even if I don't have a vere.
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