Heavy Metal Plates

[Demon6324236]

I make a ton of Gil from the drops. Not boatloads of money but enough to keep me afloat. If you don't join for the plates/gear/drops can still always go for the cruor which you can also turn into Gil or Max out your atmacites. Oh and lets not forget the experience points. Doing VW is the fastest way to Max out merits. I don't what else they could do to get you guys to do the events.

Increase drop rates, put plates in junk slots, make single plates a 100% drop in the HQ slots(unless a rare item drops) on NMs that currently drop them. Make T6 Jueno NMs drop pouches, same with T2 Aht & Tav. Make T1 Aht/Tav drop singles. T4~5 Jeuno drop singles. And finally give T4 City NMs have a 5~10% chance at dropping Plates.

[svengalis]

I gave 4 different reasons that anyone should care to do VW. It's up to the players whether they want to take advantage of that.

[svengalis]

Are you using stones? Buying voiddust? Buying cells?

Yes, no and sometimes???

[svengalis]

Honestly I still don't understand why I am supposed to blame the players, last I knew it was SEs job to make content both rewarding and enjoyable to make us want to do it. VW does not fulfill this and thats why I wont blame players, and instead blame the source of the content itself.

Okay my first Qilin run I had the leader chew me out because I didn't have sky warp so I just left the alliance instead of dealing with is whining. NEWSFLASH Not everyone has been playing this game for the last 8 years! I have people in my LS who say they don't do VW because they don't have Emyprean/Relics. This is what I mean when I say it's the players fault, if players stop being douche bags to other players then more people would do the event.

[SpankWustler]

Okay my first Qilin run I had the leader chew me out because I didn't have sky warp so I just left the alliance instead of dealing with is whining. NEWSFLASH Not everyone has been playing this game for the last 8 years! I have people in my LS who say they don't do VW because they don't have Emyprean/Relics. This is what I mean when I say it's the players fault, if players stop being douche bags to other players then more people would do the event.

So...You're saying we should blame you for leaving that alliance and the people in your linkshell who don't do Voidwatch?

You're being awfully hard on yourself and your friends, bro.

[Demon6324236]

Okay my first Qilin run I had the leader chew me out because I didn't have sky warp so I just left the alliance instead of dealing with is whining. NEWSFLASH Not everyone has been playing this game for the last 8 years! I have people in my LS who say they don't do VW because they don't have Emyprean/Relics. This is what I mean when I say it's the players fault, if players stop being douche bags to other players then more people would do the event.

In this case I agree with you. Emp/Relic should not be a reason however, due to the inclusion of the lovely Merit WSs anyone with a high level/DMG weapon and some +1/2 sets, should be just fine to do VW. I am much like this with my DRK, most people will not bother you if you have at least City temps, possible Zilart temps, and the Merit WS @5/5 for the DD job you are coming as.

Wins can be a problem though, I would advise setup ls events for wins, its an easy way to get your LS into it and see what VW involves if they are worried they can not do the job without Emp/Relic. It also gets their foot in the door with it for later on if they are interested. My ls seems to have the same problems as yours, and this is what I have been doing, has seemed to work well for me. Also since you seem to be lacking some wins yourself it would give you a chance to take the group with you not only for their own wins but to farther your own progress as well.

[Demon6324236]

So...You're saying we should blame you for leaving that alliance and the people in your linkshell who don't do Voidwatch?

You're being awfully hard on yourself and your friends, bro.

Nah he has a valid point, people in VW tend to be to picky on some things, I admit Emp/Relic is partly to weed out noobs who leach everything but it does screw alot of good players as well, same thing happens in my ls. Merit WS should remedy this for most, not all, and same with ls progress runs for the linkshell, which is what I have been trying to do for my linkshell.

[detlef]

Yes, no and sometimes???

My point on this is if you're using voiddust (and if you've been doing a lot of VW, you are probably using voiddust a lot) that you aren't making as much money as you think. If you buy cells with cruor, you generally can't come out ahead unless you only use rubicund cells. Also, while you'll almost never lose money doing VW, voiddust can take a healthy bite out of your profit margin unless you're fairly lucky with drops.

Nah he has a valid point, people in VW tend to be to picky on some things, I admit Emp/Relic is partly to weed out noobs who leach everything but it does screw alot of good players as well, same thing happens in my ls. Merit WS should remedy this for most, not all, and same with ls progress runs for the linkshell, which is what I have been trying to do for my linkshell.

He said he left an alliance because he couldn't be bothered to get his sky warp done and somebody rightly called him on it. It's his linkshell member who say they don't do VW because they don't have empys.

That's beside the point, however, because you don't need an empy to participate in VW. If you have a sensible weapon and good gear, people will not turn you down unless they simply don't need your job. People try for the best setups possible when content is new. Once it's been figured out and/or the demand for the fight is lowered, shout groups will take what they can get.

[Demon6324236]

He said he left an alliance because he couldn't be bothered to get his sky warp done and somebody rightly called him on it.

This is partly why I mentioned the wins, doing wins with his ls would allow him to get Zilart wins and thus, the warp required, unless you mean the sky warp I never bother to use with the crags, haven't used them in a long time so I don't remember if they are exactly annoying or what, I stick to VW.

It's his linkshell member who say they don't do VW because they don't have empys.

Yep, part of his argument on people being picky assholes however, so I threw that detail in as well. ^_^;

[detlef]

Crag warps are much more convenient for Zilart T3. They put you at either MG or Kirin entrance. VW warp puts you at Hall of Gods entrance in Ro'maeve.