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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Okay my first Qilin run I had the leader chew me out because I didn't have sky warp so I just left the alliance instead of dealing with is whining. NEWSFLASH Not everyone has been playing this game for the last 8 years! I have people in my LS who say they don't do VW because they don't have Emyprean/Relics. This is what I mean when I say it's the players fault, if players stop being douche bags to other players then more people would do the event.
    So...You're saying we should blame you for leaving that alliance and the people in your linkshell who don't do Voidwatch?

    You're being awfully hard on yourself and your friends, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    So...You're saying we should blame you for leaving that alliance and the people in your linkshell who don't do Voidwatch?

    You're being awfully hard on yourself and your friends, bro.
    Nah he has a valid point, people in VW tend to be to picky on some things, I admit Emp/Relic is partly to weed out noobs who leach everything but it does screw alot of good players as well, same thing happens in my ls. Merit WS should remedy this for most, not all, and same with ls progress runs for the linkshell, which is what I have been trying to do for my linkshell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Okay my first Qilin run I had the leader chew me out because I didn't have sky warp so I just left the alliance instead of dealing with is whining. NEWSFLASH Not everyone has been playing this game for the last 8 years! I have people in my LS who say they don't do VW because they don't have Emyprean/Relics. This is what I mean when I say it's the players fault, if players stop being douche bags to other players then more people would do the event.
    In this case I agree with you. Emp/Relic should not be a reason however, due to the inclusion of the lovely Merit WSs anyone with a high level/DMG weapon and some +1/2 sets, should be just fine to do VW. I am much like this with my DRK, most people will not bother you if you have at least City temps, possible Zilart temps, and the Merit WS @5/5 for the DD job you are coming as.

    Wins can be a problem though, I would advise setup ls events for wins, its an easy way to get your LS into it and see what VW involves if they are worried they can not do the job without Emp/Relic. It also gets their foot in the door with it for later on if they are interested. My ls seems to have the same problems as yours, and this is what I have been doing, has seemed to work well for me. Also since you seem to be lacking some wins yourself it would give you a chance to take the group with you not only for their own wins but to farther your own progress as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I gave 4 different reasons that anyone should care to do VW. It's up to the players whether they want to take advantage of that.
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    it's what you learn after you know it all that counts

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    The addition of pulse cells has increased interest in VW recently. But that won't keep people doing VW forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    The addition of pulse cells has increased interest in VW recently. But that won't keep people doing VW forever.
    Lol 5-10 million per cell on cerberus. Who the hell is buying these things?
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    On Valefor, the body cells have settled into the 1-3m range. Weapon cells are still stupidly rare.

    Edit: Just checked your Cerb prices, those are pretty crazy to me. But Valefor has always been one of the cheaper servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Honestly I still don't understand why I am supposed to blame the players, last I knew it was SEs job to make content both rewarding and enjoyable to make us want to do it. VW does not fulfill this and thats why I wont blame players, and instead blame the source of the content itself.
    I make a ton of Gil from the drops. Not boatloads of money but enough to keep me afloat. If you don't join for the plates/gear/drops can still always go for the cruor which you can also turn into Gil or Max out your atmacites. Oh and lets not forget the experience points. Doing VW is the fastest way to Max out merits. I don't know what else they could do to get you guys to do the events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I make a ton of Gil from the drops. Not boatloads of money but enough to keep me afloat. If you don't join for the plates/gear/drops can still always go for the cruor which you can also turn into Gil or Max out your atmacites. Oh and lets not forget the experience points. Doing VW is the fastest way to Max out merits. I don't what else they could do to get you guys to do the events.
    Increase drop rates, put plates in junk slots, make single plates a 100% drop in the HQ slots(unless a rare item drops) on NMs that currently drop them. Make T6 Jueno NMs drop pouches, same with T2 Aht & Tav. Make T1 Aht/Tav drop singles. T4~5 Jeuno drop singles. And finally give T4 City NMs have a 5~10% chance at dropping Plates.
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