Heavy Metal Plates

[Registeel]

I am sorely disappointed that they never added more VNMs with single plates, metal pouches beyond zilart (I was very hopeful that the bosses of ToAU/CoP would since the pathes are similar to the Zilart one), and more riftdross/cinder NMs.

It's frustrating, because plates are only going to go up, and riftcinder is already going for 900k - 1 mil on Odin. Lowering the number required is pleasant to think about, but I really think increasing plate drop rates on current VWNMs and adding more single / pouch drops to other NMs would be more fair. Alas, I feel like it's too late to pray for these things.

[Helel]

Yeah wtf at riftcinder price...

I've done armageddon 99 but I have no issues with them increasing the drop rate. Really quite stupid that the pouches only drop from the zilart mobs while single plates drop from mobs that are far more difficult.

I still get a kick out of the devs thinking that the empyrean trial 95>99 would be the hardest out of the three though. Anyone with a brain could have called them out on that one. You can basically complete the 95-99 trial at the cost of one umbral marrow.

[SpankWustler]

Heavy Metal Plates aren't a huge issue now, but I can just imagine the nightmare that collecting 1500 will become as time passes and Voidwatch becomes a more and more minor part of endgame. It doesn't help that even within Voidwatch, what drops pouches or even singles is limited using rather byzantine logic.

Collecting Heavy Metal Plates won't be on nearly the same scale as collecting Alexandrite at present date, but it'll be the same principle. It's impossible to buy lots of something if only a small quantity is for sale.

[scaevola]

They won't mix up plate distribution because they want people to keep doing Voidwatch in the years to come, like Dynamis.

That I think this will fail to keep players doing Voidwatch despite it being more rewarding and much less tedious than Dynamis was before the revamp is a credit to the players rather than a slight to Voidwatch, but there it is.

[Camiie]

I guess in another 5-7 years we'll get a VW revamp that will be intended to improve the availability of plates but won't really accomplish anything.

[Zumi]

I wouldn't mind them lowering the number 1500 does seem sort of absurd. As someone who did all their relic WS trails pre nerf and 1 month later had the number reduced by 90% I wasn't really pissed off because I thought those WS trails were such bs even though I wasted hundreds of hours doing them.

The way it is now if you are serious about doing plates its better to do dynamis every day you can make about on average 1.5m a day solo so around 100 days to get enough gil to buy the plates you need. Then do some VW occasionally when you feel like it because people will usually sell their plates really cheap at runs.

But actually doing dynamis for gil is a lot better for getting plates then actually doing VW. But if your main focus is doing dynamis for gil you will get done in about 3 months. Dynamis is the best source of making gil currently in the game.

Now this is why you don't see that many 99 empyreans, you can do what I said but then people feel like they rather get another relic for another job rather then use the gil for plates. You have to be really devoted to that job and weapon you are making to spend the gil on it.

[svengalis]

"Qilin x6 WHM BLM BLUx2 DD(Emp/Relic) Only /tell" Another thing, you guys only want certain jobs in the alliance with certain weapons. You are putting a very large player base out of the equation because not everyone has Emp/Relic DD and some people only play those jobs. So again if you guys want to start complaining about the prices of the plates please start with the player base first.

[svengalis]

I am sorely disappointed that they never added more VNMs with single plates, metal pouches beyond zilart (I was very hopeful that the bosses of ToAU/CoP would since the pathes are similar to the Zilart one), and more riftdross/cinder NMs.

It's frustrating, because plates are only going to go up, and riftcinder is already going for 900k - 1 mil on Odin. Lowering the number required is pleasant to think about, but I really think increasing plate drop rates on current VWNMs and adding more single / pouch drops to other NMs would be more fair. Alas, I feel like it's too late to pray for these things.

I think they will go down because as time goes on more and more people will gain access to the events and more will come into circulation, if not again blame the player base not SE.

[Zumi]

"Qilin x6 WHM BLM BLUx2 DD(Emp/Relic) Only /tell" Another thing, you guys only want certain jobs in the alliance with certain weapons. You are putting a very large player base out of the equation because not everyone has Emp/Relic DD and some people only play those jobs. So again if you guys want to start complaining about the prices of the plates please start with the player base first.

Send people tells anyway I do not have a reilc or emp for all my jobs but I send people tells anyway, I do get in 95% of the time. Often people making these have a hard time getting people and they are willing to take people that don't have a legendary weapon.

[Demon6324236]

Send people tells anyway I do not have a reilc or emp for all my jobs but I send people tells anyway, I do get in 95% of the time. Often people making these have a hard time getting people and they are willing to take people that don't have a legendary weapon.

Also many people do not care about Emp/Relic even if its in the shout due to Merit WSs being how strong they are. Its just simply a habit people never got out of I think.