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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    One of my friends is a Cata-cleaving BLM with a 90 Hvergelmir and his Shattersoul damage is no joke and neither is his nuking damage. You are going to get TP from AO, Why not have an INT set and get off an extra tier V nukes worth of damage and enhance your actual nukes?

    I personally like my swords, but the reason I hate staves is not because I don't like staves, but because people tell me I should be using them on a job that doesn't have proficiency in staves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    One of my friends is a Cata-cleaving BLM with a 90 Hvergelmir and his Shattersoul damage is no joke and neither is his nuking damage. You are going to get TP from AO, Why not have an INT set and get off an extra tier V nukes worth of damage and enhance your actual nukes?

    I personally like my swords, but the reason I hate staves is not because I don't like staves, but because people tell me I should be using them on a job that doesn't have proficiency in staves.
    This is very similar to myself, except its not that its because RDM has no skill in staves but rather because if it had a skill in staves thats what everyone would always expect. I don't mind that RDM gets staff skill so long as no one tries to force me to use it instead of my blades.

    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Well seeing as Shattersoul exists and RDM has tons of INT gear, giving RDM a B in staff wouldn't be a bad idea. It's a "2H" weapon and thus enjoys the 4:3 bonus for attack / acc along with the 2.2 ratio cap, would get the 10% bonus of hasso to go with it. Shattersoul actually has some use for the -MDB and can put out big numbers if you've got the INT to back it up, not Resolution numbers but not savage blade numbers either.

    Just an idea.
    Very true, the WS would be amazing for RDM especially when nuking, but the only problem is that it might draw more people to complain about RDMs who choose to DD with swords, which is the only reason I even added that part into my comment :x
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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    If we had a B in Staff Skill, we would have more options. Just like if we had access to all our EX WSs we would have more options. Staves represent not only the inclusion of 2H weapons, but also semi-viable Blunt damage, as well as nuking support.

    If you are scared people are going to tell you how to play your job, then IDK what to say to you. Either do what you want or don't. It's a game. There are enough good swords on RDM that you don't have to worry about them being replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    If you are scared people are going to tell you how to play your job, then IDK what to say to you. Either do what you want or don't. It's a game. There are enough good swords on RDM that you don't have to worry about them being replaced.
    It's less fear of being told how to play and more the expectation of exclusion for not playing as expected. It's entirely possible to be excluded from basic parties, events, and even shells just because the RDM doesn't want to use the staff. The canned answer is to "play with friends." This, of course, requires friends willing to accommodate one's viewpoint, if the people one plays with also thinks a RDM only belongs in the back with a staff, what is left?

    Instead of hoping for a staff skill the devs have refused us even in spite of the roles and tools both embraced and forced upon RDM in the past and present, maybe it wouldn't be so bad to have instead a sword or dagger equivalent to Shattersoul.
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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    I personally only care for Sanguine Blade because of it's utility. If you want damage, use Requeiscat. It kills most things and SCs well, if you are into that.
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    Last edited by ManaKing; 07-29-2012 at 05:08 PM.
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    Its got nothing to do with Damage, They're low level elemental WS.... its about Procs. For Voidwatch, and what have you.

    RDM is already dead in the water in those events, at least having more procs would make them SLIGHTLY more useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Its got nothing to do with Damage, They're low level elemental WS.... its about Procs. For Voidwatch, and what have you.

    RDM is already dead in the water in those events, at least having more procs would make them SLIGHTLY more useful.
    Very much so for me, I tend to do alot in Abyssea as my RDM, for instance today I am going to do Chloris for a friend and with my ls. I will be on RDM, sadly I can tank like a pro, and solo most/all of the NMs likely, however I have 0 red procs so I always will need to rely on a WAR or NIN to come help me every kill that I get a KI from, which is very annoying...
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    Two days late but you technically have cyclone/energy drain on rdm. That isnt to say i dont support this, just a correction.
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    Cyclone is AoE, which is not an option if you prefer to be more discreet.

    Energy Drain is nice, but has a limit to what if can drain MP from. It'd be nice to see a sword-equivalent that converts damage to MP, or a sword-equivalent to Moonlight. Something that isn't dependent on the target having MP, is the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    Cyclone is AoE, which is not an option if you prefer to be more discreet.

    Energy Drain is nice, but has a limit to what if can drain MP from. It'd be nice to see a sword-equivalent that converts damage to MP, or a sword-equivalent to Moonlight. Something that isn't dependent on the target having MP, is the point.
    What you're asking for is basically a Mystic Boon for RDMs, PLDs, and BLUs.
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    I love back in 2006 when they said Mythics would be the casual-player's alternative to Relic weapons.
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    The stupid is strong here.

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