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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    You show me the ultimate sets of gear for any job that can not be improved in any way and many players can get their hands on, wont happen. Even if people could pin it down to the absolute best possible sets for a job it wouldn't matter because I am 99% sure some gear is out of reach to most players like a Toci's or something with an absurdly low drop rate. The goal is to get them, and everyone has their own path, that path is different for alot of people.
    You've hit the nail on the head. With windower the destination is the same, but the path is different. Without windower the destination AND the path are different.
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  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    You've hit the nail on the head. With windower the destination is the same, but the path is different. Without windower the destination AND the path are different.
    Without Windower, we do exactly what Spank said...

    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    slowly develop chronic stress injuries in my hands and wrists as I hit six or more macros to perform every action
    Windower is not the cause of full set macros, it simply makes them easier to perform and less taxing on our hands.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Without Windower, we do exactly what Spank said...



    Windower is not the cause of full set macros, it simply makes them easier to perform and less taxing on our hands.
    Does anyone really do that though. You technically can, but FF11 frequently requires fast reactions so I can't see it being advantageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Does anyone really do that though.
    Yes, people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    That does look incredibly painful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Does anyone really do that though. You technically can, but FF11 frequently requires fast reactions so I can't see it being advantageous.
    It's what my best friend does when she plays on PS2. It's what I did for a time when the thing wouldn't do things to the other things and make stuff do stuff to the thing with the thing, maybe.

    Obviously it's not something I would recommend for a Stun or Sudden Lunge macro, but it's closer to ideal than the alternative for most things because it allows a non-horrid idle set for a mage and better weaponskill sets for a melee.

    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Been there.
    Done that.

    Still waiting on the T-shirt...
    Here you go!



    The slogan simultaneously establishes you as a threatening super-villain and warns others about succumbing to the same condition.
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    Last edited by SpankWustler; 07-20-2012 at 11:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Does anyone really do that though. You technically can, but FF11 frequently requires fast reactions so I can't see it being advantageous.
    Yes people do. Should look up Avesta sometime on youtube.
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    Thats the same style macros i employ as well, and yes its terrible but it gets the job done, its senseless that we cant just accomplish the swap with a single action vice 3x or more depending on JA's used inbetween ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    You really have no idea how big a deal, do you?
    you don't get what I said then.. if a person who don't gear swap can do something just as well as another person who does gear swap... what does that say about the non gear swaper?

    @ nala you don't get what troll means.... ~.~ you just did something "trollish" which is insulting a person saying "white knight" like a 4 year old... are you infact 4 years old? if not.. why act like it?

    as for everyone insulting everyone., STOP its not helping your suggestion. I really hope SE CS forum ppl craxk down on the insults you guys fling every two seconds. I don't use insults. I just point out how u act and just as be polite. I try to say my peace.

    If anyone where played an MUD.. you can't streamline ,acros like you guys think you can. And the more lines you put the more automated it does get. I'm wondering why ppl are complaining about playing a game and pressing buttons. Most of games outside ff were button mashers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    you don't get what I said then.. if a person who don't gear swap can do something just as well as another person who does gear swap... what does that say about the non gear swaper?

    @ nala you don't get what troll means.... ~.~ you just did something "trollish" which is insulting a person saying "white knight" like a 4 year old... are you infact 4 years old? if not.. why act like it?

    as for everyone insulting everyone., STOP its not helping your suggestion. I really hope SE CS forum ppl craxk down on the insults you guys fling every two seconds. I don't use insults. I just point out how u act and just as be polite. I try to say my peace.

    If anyone where played an MUD.. you can't streamline ,acros like you guys think you can. And the more lines you put the more automated it does get. I'm wondering why ppl are complaining about playing a game and pressing buttons. Most of games outside ff were button mashers.
    Stop posting, you are not not welcome to any player-base with cognitive reasoning.
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