[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[0nionKn1ght]

i would like to point out that sum players (i am not one of them) don't gear swop because from a role playing standpoint they think it is redunkulis .

close friend of mine put it to me this way

"when in a battle the war would not say oh hold on Mr ork let me switch to this nice shinny Brest plate to hit you harder *2 min later* ok now i can kick your ass" he felt that it broke the Emerson in to the game so did not use it.

to me its there money and they can play and in fact have the right to play how they want while i dont see while she brings it up so much i don't know but i do think it is aleet to say anyone that does not play the game with gear swops are "noobs".

good gear and swopping gear does not a good player make. all the great gear will not make a crappy player good and bad gear will not make a grate player bad.

also stop with the mocking her for saying text limit she got caled out for posting right after her last post in a different threads started saying "text limit" so people would know why the double and sum times triple posts and what do sum of you do mock
her for doing that.

onistely this forums and the game and other mmos are like being back in high school.


having said all that as i posted on the first page this is a great idea and of the 2 i like the 2nd option and hope the Dev team will comment on it

In an RP sense, switching out gear doesn't make much sense on the spot, but at the same time, her attitude would be affecting whatever party she joined. If she wanted to go solo or with other people who are doing the same then fine, but not using a core battle mechanic which would severely limit her performance and output is unfair to others in the party who are maximising their potential.

You are correct in that good gear does not make a bad player good, but gear makes a good player great, otherwise there would be no need for any gear ingame, you could effectively complete the game with your onion set.

Her attitude is no problem alone, but inflicting it on others who are putting in time and effort to macro and be the best they can be is called being a leech, and a very arrogant leech at that if thats the attitude she wants to portray.

TL:DR version - If she wants to not gear swap, she can solo, but she should not expect outcry if she did it in a group.

[FrankReynolds]

i would like to point out that sum players (i am not one of them) don't gear swop because from a role playing standpoint they think it is redunkulis .

close friend of mine put it to me this way

"when in a battle the war would not say oh hold on Mr ork let me switch to this nice shinny Brest plate to hit you harder *2 min later* ok now i can kick your ass" he felt that it broke the Emerson in to the game so did not use it.

to me its there money and they can play and in fact have the right to play how they want while i dont see while she brings it up so much i don't know but i do think it is aleet to say anyone that does not play the game with gear swops are "noobs".

good gear and swopping gear does not a good player make. all the great gear will not make a crappy player good and bad gear will not make a grate player bad.

also stop with the mocking her for saying text limit she got caled out for posting right after her last post in a different threads started saying "text limit" so people would know why the double and sum times triple posts and what do sum of you do mock
her for doing that.

onistely this forums and the game and other mmos are like being back in high school.


having said all that as i posted on the first page this is a great idea and of the 2 i like the 2nd option and hope the Dev team will comment on it

I dunno, I find creating elaborate macros and gear sets to be part of the lure of this game. The fact that I have to research and determine the minuscule performance differences between different gear sets and customize macros to make efficient use of them is as much a part of the battle as swinging my incredibly small dagger at that giant sand worm thingamajiggy.

On a very basic level I see where you could say that gear swaps might not happen quite the way we use them, in a real battle. You would however see people picking up different weapons and or swapping them out based on need. for example, a heavily armored horseman might want to drop his lance, pull his sword or dagger and strip off some of that heavy metal should he be knocked down. He might even be inclined to put on his magic ring that gives him incredible eyesight, or magically absorbs blows from his enemy. I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this.

I understand where in very specific circumstances it would not make sense for a person to be swapping pieces of armor mid battle, but reality and rules are really not synonymous with MMOs, or any game for that matter.

[Zerich]

brb, main healing on my mnk, because i'm swinging an apollo's staff.

[katiekat]

i want to be cleari gear swop i think it makes me a better player i just wanted to say that not all reasons are stupid.i was more meaning i know there are theirs that just don't for rp reasons. i am not one of them am even starting to work on a nuking set for my nin if she realy pisses you guys off cant you block or ignore her so her comments poof? that wold be better then intaganising her and terming topics in to cat fights (get it mithra ... cat fights...( anyways just hate how much fighting and drama is on this bored...tho its not as bad as game FAQS.

[Reiterpallasch]

if she realy pisses you guys off cant you block or ignore her so her comments poof?

Just because you pretend the dog didn't crap all over the carpet, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

[Okipuit]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

[Demon6324236]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

Please tell the reps by leaving players with a lacking macro system they force many players to use Third-party tools to have proper macros. Many players do not want to use Third-party tools on this game but macros are a very important part of the games structure, and with the built in version lacking as it is the only way for players to overcome this disability is via cheating. Also please tell them that I would very much like for them to consider allowing us to edit the macro feature with the new UI and its ability for user plug-ins so that this problem can be avoided in the future.

[Rezeak]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

We're not asking to call other macros

we just want gear swaps to be put on one line for a game that clearly rewards muliple gear swaps.

Anyway DEVs said they wanted to make the game easier to use with the new UI but it'll still be full of useless buttons.

Having to press 5 buttons to perform one Action is very poor game design and i put it down to ps2 limitions but on the new UI let pple put gear sets into one line.

[Byrth]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

I think it's worth pointing out that the two things you named aren't "reasons." Saying you've given a reason implies that you've explained some kind of design principle that led to the current rules. You just said the current rules, which are (as far as we know from what you've said) arbitrary. Whether or not they're malleable isn't really up for debate, considering they're in an artificially created online environment.

You've entered a debate about what the laws should be by reciting the laws, clapping your hands, and saying "I guess we're done here!"

[Arcon]

Get out of their throat and give them some credit for answering your query and stop overreacting to it. This has been known forever.

They didn't answer shit. They ignored the question entirely and gave a generic response. And no one is blaming them for it, we're blaming the developers. We know they're just messengers.

not a meme

Memes are retarded.

You just said the current rules, which are (as far as we know from what you've said) arbitrary. Whether or not they're malleable isn't really up for debate, considering they're in an artificially created online environment.

You've entered a debate about what the laws should be by reciting the laws, clapping your hands, and saying "I guess we're done here!"

That's precisely my problem with it. But sadly, it feels like this is their way of answering most our inquiries. It was the same with the merit suggestion. We were criticizing the current situation, and they responded by saying the current situation was intended. No kidding. If it wasn't, it probably wouldn't be in this game. But that was precisely what was bothering people, and it's the same here. We all know SE made it to only execute one gear swap per macro line. But that is our very problem.

When asked to increase the macro lines, they answered with memory limitations on the PS2. Now we gave them another solution and they answer with "it was always intended this way"? If that's the case you should have told us sooner, so we'd stop suggesting new things and waiting for ages for a generic answer.

Nothing is more disheartening than getting more proof that the developers of one of your favorite games have no common sense whatsoever and care nothing about their community's wishes and desires. If they think they know better than we do, just because they develop this game they are gravely mistaken. They need to learn to differentiate between idiots suggesting silly things such as RDM should be allowed to use Great Axes and valid suggestions that would benefit almost everyone and increase the gameplay value, especially if it helps get people off an officially forbidden third party tool, which is so common by now that they attract more people to the game than SE themselves. Now that's something to be ashamed of. See the error of your ways devs and do something about it.