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  1. #321
    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    And again! You are saying you agreenwith my sentiments, but insist on attacking me personally? Why? Reported.
    A better thing to report would be your disgusting actions and attitude to your LS leaders/members. You do everything "legit" so you can benefit while only putting them at risk. Which is despicable to say the least, especially if you call them "friends". I wonder how they would feel about how you talk about them behind their backs?
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    ~ The OF motto ~
    If someone has more gil than me, they bought it.
    If someone outclaims me, they're botting.
    If someone is more successful than me, they cheat.

  2. #322
    Player wish12oz's Avatar
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    Im not really anonymous as I use the same name for everything, and I've even linked my actual website here before. I'm just pointing out that you have no right to talk down about others and claim to be superior because you dont use windower macros or spellcast, because you admit you knowingly play with people who do and benefit from it. That's not a violation of the forum rules, it's pointing out things you say.
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  3. #323
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    i fail to see how a macro that still only performs one action, but swaps all the gear needed for that action as opposed to one third the gear, is automation.

    i mean granted, you can make some SUPER long W macros that start to border on automation, but most people don't.(i'm sure there's a way to make them auto-repeat but i can barely get ffxi to RUN on my laptop so...)

    once you go beyond the one action you the player can decide to use, the system has hit a wall. do you think if players had infinitely long macros they would que hundreds of actions onto one button press and just leave it alone during battles?

    and nobody is asking for that anyway...

    SE says one action per line. we all want 1 action per macro. the issue is most of us don't consider changing 1 ring an action.
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  4. #324
    Player tyrantsyn's Avatar
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    I'm confused, I thought we were discussion increasing macro line's. Are we all getting into selling crack on the street's of Jeuno now or something? Man I've never seen a strung out taru before, this is going to be great.
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  5. #325
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    I'm confused, I thought we were discussion increasing macro line's. Are we all getting into selling crack on the street's of Jeuno now or something? Man I've never seen a strung out taru before, this is going to be great.
    They look like this. They have been all over Jeuno lately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doombringer View Post
    do you think if players had infinitely long macros they would que hundreds of actions onto one button press and just leave it alone during battles?
    I admit that I didn't look very hard, but I have yet to find a spellcast script in pastebin that performs repeated actions. It is probably doable, but I've never met anyone personally who uses it for that.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 07-27-2012 at 03:37 AM.

  6. #326
    Player Jackstin's Avatar
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    Its a fallacy to say an argument is flawed because the arguer is uncredable either you are attacking my argument, in which case you are doing it wrong, or you are attacking me, in which case there is no need.

    I personally think it is unfair to call me worse than a cheater. If I was intentionally partying with people, making use of their cheating, but refusing to put my account at risk, then sure I could understand it. But I don't. I party with them despite their cheating, not because of it. Try and be a little nicer on the internet, calling a stranger who you know next to nothing about a hypocrite is not a nice thing to do.
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  7. #327
    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    I have to say I'm with wish12oz, CidBahamut and Reiterpallasch on this one. This is on par with how things were back at 75 cap, where people were crying over bots but still joined endgame linkshells knowing full well people in the ls botted hnms.

    Saying you won't, under any circumstances, use any kind of 3rd party tool, is perfectly fine. Looking down on others that do use them, and actually say you think you're better than them while still directly benefitting from playing with them, is not fine. That is indeed pretty much being a hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  8. #328
    Player Jackstin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    I have to say I'm with wish12oz, CidBahamut and Reiterpallasch on this one. This is on par with how things were back at 75 cap, where people were crying over bots but still joined endgame linkshells knowing full well people in the ls botted hnms.

    Saying you won't, under any circumstances, use any kind of 3rd party tool, is perfectly fine. Looking down on others that do use them, and actually say you think you're better than them while still directly benefitting from playing with them, is not fine. That is indeed pretty much being a hypocrite.
    You know what? I've NEVER said I'm better than them. I've called them cheaters, and I've said that they negatively affect me in-game, but I've not said anything other than that.

    I think it is unbelievable that people are saying that I should not be allowed to party with people who use windower. I'm being further marginalised because I choose not to cheat? That's pretty rich. And this thread just proves what an issue windower is. How widespread the plague is.
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  9. #329
    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    You know what? I've NEVER said I'm better than them. I've called them cheaters, and I've said that they negatively affect me in-game, but I've not said anything other than that.

    I think it is unbelievable that people are saying that I should not be allowed to party with people who use windower. I'm being further marginalised because I choose not to cheat? That's pretty rich. And this thread just proves what an issue windower is. How widespread the plague is.

    Why are you playing with people that you KNOW use windower and spellcast then, if they negatively impact your gameplay? I'd say the opposite might actually be true here, they're speeding up your own character's progress and you just won't admit it.

    And in my personal opinion, just about every post you've made in this thread implies you do infact think you're better than players using windower. Some things are best left unsaid, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Try and be a little nicer on the internet, calling a stranger who you know next to nothing about a hypocrite is not a nice thing to do.
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