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    Player Tamarsamar's Avatar
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    I'm going to note here that I dislike cidbahamut and disagree with most of the bile he spews.

    That said, he has a much more reasonable and thought-out point than Jack.

    All anybody is saying is that, unless SE nerfs the playerbase hard by removing the ability to swap gear at all, people are going to exploit all the tools they have given to them to their fullest (and, in some unscrupulous people's cases, many more tools after that). Min-maxing is a fact of any game with depth, and to not anticipate that players will, eventually, one way or another, try to take advantage of this, is simply, as cid has repeated ad nauseum, bad game design.

    So now that the cat is out of the bag (and SE seems to have accepted that people swap gear a long time ago), why not make it so that you can save an entire set of gear to a single command? Suddenly, 6 lines per macro seems exceedingly generous, and pressing two fewer buttons isn't exactly as game-shattering as, say, pos-hacking or item-duping, so why shouldn't SE reward legitimate players with a basic-but-significant quality-of-life enhancement for their game?
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    I love back in 2006 when they said Mythics would be the casual-player's alternative to Relic weapons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Armando
    No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
    FFXI Official Forums in a nutshell:

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    The stupid is strong here.

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    Oh yes, definitely. That's something I forgot to mention: It's definitely the game's fault that anything like windower ever game to be. As far as I know, the original intent was to be able to have the game windowed indeed, which is still quite unbelievable to think how long it took for the 'official windower' to become reality.

    It is comparable to the features it now offers. It makes things better, sure, but it's still not allowed and some of as will accept that. I will probably never understand why they still are not adopting or at least doing something to better things so that such things would not be needed! I think I mentioned it before, and many others have as well, that there is the possibility of them thinking “it's all good” because people are not complaining enough (due to using roundabouts). I still don't want to believe in that, and rather think that they're just stubborn.

    I will still spare some faith into the upcoming UI/plug-in update...

    If things weren't so obviously inconvenient (quick example: all the situational equipment they keep throwing us, but broken means to apply use of them), there would simply be no need for (teleport) dem cheats!


    Just some more random (and tired) thoughts.
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    ...or so the legend says.


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    Long story short. It would be a terrible move economically speaking to ban the thousands of spellcast users. It would be extremely wise and noble to give non spellcast users at least some of the functionality that their criminal brethren have.

    If they were even polite enough to say "We won't ban you, but we will suspend you if we catch you." That would at least give people the option to even the playing field, knowing that they are not risking their accounts.

    Refusing to do anything seems like really bad taste in my opinion, but it has worked so far...

    It would have been nice if they had not fanned the flame with that lame response though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I really hate hate hate when people get on other peoples case about their ffxiah profiles as if it has anything to do with a topic, But hearing "abysseanoobumadness" coming from someone who has this: "WoC looking for a few mature people to build empy/AF3+2/Relic" in their profile strikes me as odd.
    I have every VW drop I really want (Toci's, Coruscanti aside). AF3 85/100 +2 and 99/100 +1. I co created the single most capable LS on Phoenix. I left said LS for a more relaxed pace with long time friends who weren't as into the end game scene and because drama became tiresome. Abyssea fits perfect for that role. So yes I would like to take a few people through abyssea and deck em out with gear and empys. I actually find helping others rewarding. As for calling someone out on their profile it was only in regards to their claim of "longtime support" which I find highly unlikely after seeing their profile. I mean if you consider playing since abyssea longtime <please forgive me>.

    ~Don't hate the derail they thread locked the other thread you posted this in.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
    I have every VW drop I really want (Toci's, Coruscanti aside). AF3 85/100 +2 and 99/100 +1. I co created the single most capable LS on Phoenix. I left said LS for a more relaxed pace with long time friends who weren't as into the end game scene and because drama became tiresome. Abyssea fits perfect for that role. So yes I would like to take a few people through abyssea and deck em out with gear and empys. I actually find helping others rewarding. As for calling someone out on their profile it was only in regards to their claim of "longtime support" which I find highly unlikely after seeing their profile. I mean if you consider playing since abyssea longtime <please forgive me>.

    ~Don't hate the derail they thread locked the other thread you posted this in.
    Meh, I don't care one way or the other. It just came off a little strange to me.

    Since we're on a derailed train here anyways though... did they really just use that lame response and lock that thread? Seriously...

    People were saying "Instead of going after cheaters, please just make it so that there is no reason to cheat" and they lock that for mentioning third party tools... Yet here is a whole thread about third party tools (A discussion caused almost entirely by their lame responses) and it's open. Is it just me? or is this thread in a way darker place than the other one was?
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    Either their really intent in getting everything they can from this thread to try and improve thing's or their just making a list of the ppl they suspect of using 3rd party tool's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    Either their really intent in getting everything they can from this thread to try and improve thing's or their just making a list of the ppl they suspect of using 3rd party tool's.
    lol if their intent is to flag ppl with 3rd party tool, it'll be a hell of a lot easier to do that over on BG's forum then here.
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    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    lol if their intent is to flag ppl with 3rd party tool, it'll be a hell of a lot easier to do that over on BG's forum then here.
    Except any BG forum member can claim to be you - or me - or any other character in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Player tyrantsyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    Except any BG forum member can claim to be you - or me - or any other character in FFXI.
    What he/she said ^^
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    Player Dreamin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    Except any BG forum member can claim to be you - or me - or any other character in FFXI.
    Nah wasn't talking about just ppl who post but rather just go look for all the Screenshots. SS is conclusive proof when someone is using third party tool. There's no agrument about it at all.
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