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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Poor game design is one thing, but being able to switch to precast, wait a set amount of time, switch to midcast, and then back to idle, all at the click of one macro, is quite another.
    It's not a design issue. Currently that's already possible with 0 timing skills, just by pressing buttons if you use the <wait #> directive cleverly. The only difference is the number of lines.

    SpellCast actually does provide more advanced features, the "worst" of which would be conditionals. Change gear based on certain variables like time of day, day of week, current HP/MP, etc.
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    You don't need spellcast to do that.

    Although it helps.
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    So my original assessment that it's an issue of half-assing your gearswapping was correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    So my original assessment that it's an issue of half-assing your gearswapping was correct.
    Lol. Dude who doesn't use windower must be gimp.

    Yup pretty much proves my point, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Lol. Dude who doesn't use windower must be gimp.

    Yup pretty much proves my point, thanks.
    I think it was more like "Dude doesn't know how to gear swap for shit. We like him though, so maybe if we get him on spellcast we can keep him."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Lol. Dude who doesn't use windower must be gimp.

    Yup pretty much proves my point, thanks.
    Says the guy who advocates only swapping 5 pieces of gear per action at max.

    Christ, learn to chain your macros already. It's not rocket science.

    Here, look at this: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Macro
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    /macro set # Change to "#" macro line
    You see that command there? That's your key to using the vanilla client to gear swap entire sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Says the guy who advocates only swapping 5 pieces of gear per action at max.

    Christ, learn to chain your macros already. It's not rocket science.

    Here, look at this: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Macro

    You see that command there? That's your key to using the vanilla client to gear swap entire sets.
    That is what I do at the moment. I've already said that I no longer think 5 gear pieces is enough and we should get more macro lines. Why are you arguing against me on points I am not taking issue with? It is spellcast that is the problem. Keep up.
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    If people tell you to use windower and spellcast, and you don't want to, tell them no? Shouldn't be harder than that, and if they won't shut up about it then just ignore them?

    With the massive amount of highly situational gear that just about every job has available to them, I cannot fault anyone for using spellcast to be as efficient as they possibly can.
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    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Okay, think it's time to derail the windower vs non-windower discussion and back to really the true topic in hand, which is:

    - Dear SE, we want more than 6 lines per Macro button. If you insisted that we cannot have more than 6 lines per macro. Then all we want is some sort of mechanism to setup 'Multiple Gearsets' which contains 16 slots of gears only. Which can be setup using something similar to the current 'Equipment' menu selection. Each Gearset can then be equip by a new command '/equip gearset X' where 'X' is one of the number of pre-setted Gearsets that you would allow us to setup (please give us a few, maybe at a min 5 gearsets - I'm even willing to change the gearset each time I change job - yeah call me crazy but it's better than having nothing). If this isn't possible to do on the PS2, then make this only for the PC/Xbox 360 platform and let the PS2 ppl suffer since you're already okay with making UI enhancement that would create an unfair advantages for the PC platform already. So we're just asking that you to please be consistent and be strong and be willing to ditch the PS2 platform for future enhancement if PS2 is the current limitation.

    Now, let's get back to what really should be discussed and not whether Windower is evil or not (if you really want to have that discussion, please feel free to create a new thread here or go to BG and dig up THAT old thread).
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    。。。

    I, for one, don't really see Jackstin trying to make it look like he/she/other is better than the cheaters other\she\it I mean he is playing with.

    I haven't ever used the windower, or anything like that, and I really don't care about other people using them. It happens in every game: people cheat, more and/or less. While it all might not directly affect other players, I have to admit, I can imagine adjusting content could become skewed due to the additionals people are using. It had been mentioned quite a lot now I see, mostly regarding Nyzul Isle II.

    As for playing with the cheating linkshells or not, people have probably always been saying it: most players use something, so if one wants to do 'end-game', they're going to have to live with it, unfortunately. So with that in mind, I would not be too fast in calling one hypocrite as seen around this post.

    I don't do Voidwatch or Legion, nor Nyzul Isle II and if Limbus II and Slavage (actual typo, ha!) I mean Salvage II follow the Nyzul form, I will not be doing those, and pretty much everything else in the game I can do without lots of people so I guess I am glad for not being in a situation of having to play with them cheaters. Again, though, I know cheaters, and have played with them, but not at all gaining anything from it due to them cheating andwhatnot, but if people still need to go on about that in this topic, I'll leave it at that.

    Now, what was I going to say... My thoughts are quite diluted with the distraction of that which is unseen, most of the time (but sometimes heard).

    I've always had a strong will for playing by the rules, so I would never call a 'cheat' progress. Obviously it often makes things better, easier, and in some cases the way it should be, or at least towards it. I guess it's because I often put myself into the position of the developer due to the things I do, so I would not like people cheating in my game, either. It's obvious this game lacks in a lot of its features, and I can not deny that 3rd party applications improve it, but it's still denied by the developers so I will play by the book then. It's just how I roll~

    To be clear, I would like it a lot if many 'cheats' were to be implemented or allowed come the UI/customisation update.


    As Dreamin there said, I think it's time to derail this topic back on track, so to speak.


    I'll leave it at that. Probably wrote a lot again, I already forgot what... so sleepy... blubb.

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