[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[Reiterpallasch]

And again! You are saying you agreenwith my sentiments, but insist on attacking me personally? Why? Reported.

A better thing to report would be your disgusting actions and attitude to your LS leaders/members. You do everything "legit" so you can benefit while only putting them at risk. Which is despicable to say the least, especially if you call them "friends". I wonder how they would feel about how you talk about them behind their backs?

[Jackstin]

Okay so at the moment with vanilla, you can either equip midcast equipment, but are limited in the number of pieces you can swap out, or you can create a dedicated gearswap macro or two and time them well. Spellcast converts this all in to just one macro. This to me, is automation.

I don't think its perfect. Maybe it would be better if you could create a full gear swap macro but still have to select abilities separately. Or even simpler than that, just increase the number of macro slots. But I'd prefer to play a game where there is some element of skill in gear swaps. You may say that's good for me, and let you play your way. But as I've said, your way affects me, and it is against the rules. Why should I be at a disadvantage for adhering to the rules?

[cidbahamut]

Why should I be at a disadvantage for adhering to the rules?

A better question would be: Why should the rules put you at a disadvantage to begin with?

[Jackstin]

A better question would be: Why should the rules put you at a disadvantage to begin with?

Rules only put people at a disadvantage to people who flaunt them. No cheating? no disadvantage.

[Arcon]

Why? Their last reply in this thread says that they do not support that level of automation.

You confuse multiple gear swaps with automation and botting. SE never said they support it, nor do people want it. They just want more of the same: macro lines. It's the same level of automation as it is now.

Now I know there are some serious UI issues, but breaking the core rules of the game is not UI. It is thinking you are above the the creators vision.

I do firmly believe that. I believe that the creators of this game are completely inept at designing an efficient MMORPG.

Rules only put people at a disadvantage to people who flaunt them. No cheating? no disadvantage.

Better rules? Disable cheating. But that doesn't seem to occur to SE (or you), further supporting my statement above.

[wish12oz]

Im not really anonymous as I use the same name for everything, and I've even linked my actual website here before. I'm just pointing out that you have no right to talk down about others and claim to be superior because you dont use windower macros or spellcast, because you admit you knowingly play with people who do and benefit from it. That's not a violation of the forum rules, it's pointing out things you say.

[Doombringer]

i fail to see how a macro that still only performs one action, but swaps all the gear needed for that action as opposed to one third the gear, is automation.

i mean granted, you can make some SUPER long W macros that start to border on automation, but most people don't.(i'm sure there's a way to make them auto-repeat but i can barely get ffxi to RUN on my laptop so...)

once you go beyond the one action you the player can decide to use, the system has hit a wall. do you think if players had infinitely long macros they would que hundreds of actions onto one button press and just leave it alone during battles?

and nobody is asking for that anyway...

SE says one action per line. we all want 1 action per macro. the issue is most of us don't consider changing 1 ring an action.

[tyrantsyn]

I'm confused, I thought we were discussion increasing macro line's. Are we all getting into selling crack on the street's of Jeuno now or something? Man I've never seen a strung out taru before, this is going to be great.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm confused, I thought we were discussion increasing macro line's. Are we all getting into selling crack on the street's of Jeuno now or something? Man I've never seen a strung out taru before, this is going to be great.

They look like this. They have been all over Jeuno lately.

do you think if players had infinitely long macros they would que hundreds of actions onto one button press and just leave it alone during battles?

I admit that I didn't look very hard, but I have yet to find a spellcast script in pastebin that performs repeated actions. It is probably doable, but I've never met anyone personally who uses it for that.

[Jackstin]

Its a fallacy to say an argument is flawed because the arguer is uncredable either you are attacking my argument, in which case you are doing it wrong, or you are attacking me, in which case there is no need.

I personally think it is unfair to call me worse than a cheater. If I was intentionally partying with people, making use of their cheating, but refusing to put my account at risk, then sure I could understand it. But I don't. I party with them despite their cheating, not because of it. Try and be a little nicer on the internet, calling a stranger who you know next to nothing about a hypocrite is not a nice thing to do.