[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[Zerich]

Stubborn or not does not change the fact that using windower is against ToS(and by this time, admitted by SE that it's against design intention). You're basically telling everyone to cheat or else you're stubborn.

I am not telling anyone to "cheat" or break their ToS.
I am pointing out that crying about unfair advantages, because someone plays on a console, is nothing but being stubborn.

And Rosa, no one cares about your claims on soloing IT mobs and NMs in Abyssea, most WHMs can do the same.

[Phogg]

I am not telling anyone to "cheat" or break their ToS.
I am pointing out that crying about unfair advantages, because someone plays on a console, is nothing but being stubborn.

And Rosa, no one cares about your claims on soloing IT mobs and NMs in Abyssea, most WHMs can do the same.

Huh? Um, what? So if someone bought this game for Xbox and is watching others exploit features which both violate the ToS and have now been announced in an explicit fashion by the Devs/Reps as not being something they will look to implement/change, what exactly does "being stubborn" have to do with this scenario? Expecting the game to operate evenly across supported platforms has nothing, at all, to do with being stubborn. It clearly offers a certain segment of the player base an advantage over others.

That is about fairness, and fair play. If the game is supported on platforms that do not allow access to these third party applications, that is a fairness issue. Its really none of your business what platform people choose to play on, and has nothing to do with the underlying issue.

[Rosina]

I am not telling anyone to "cheat" or break their ToS.
I am pointing out that crying about unfair advantages, because someone plays on a console, is nothing but being stubborn.

And Rosa, no one cares about your claims on soloing IT mobs and NMs in Abyssea, most WHMs can do the same.

ya with gear swap...big deal.

[cidbahamut]

Variety through malnutrition!

Huzzah!

[FrankReynolds]

Variety through malnutrition!

Huzzah!

She wasn't taking away my bacon and eggs. She was giving me a choice so that my breakfast would be more fun.

[Rosina]

@ cid, zerich and frank

you guys need to stop being trolls and start acting a bit more decently. Just because people do not agree with you, doesn't make them trolls. Just because people play differently then you, don't mean they suck.

Gear swap though helpful isn't really manditory. I solo some abby NM w/o gear swaping and one. I tanked some IT mobs solo and never died. (@ 75 cap) All gear swap does is just increase output making fights a tad easier.

But really all you guys are doing is hurting your suggestion by insulting anyone who disagrees. I pretty much did try to warn you this maybe the responce you will get. All macros are, are basic scripting.

If anyone played an MUD is the basic way people those. You do a series of slash commands and just type in the trigger for each command. But each aspect of the command needs to be on a seperate line unless its like a sub command much like <wait#>. And as far as I know gear coomands may not beable to be used through sub commands do to the nature it.

[Dragoy]

you guys need to stop being trolls and start acting a bit more decently. Just because people do not agree with you, doesn't make them trolls. Just because people play differently then you, don't mean they suck.

Have you ever heard anything along the lines of “do not feed the troll”? ^^;

Point being, if you feel people are insulting and/or trolling you, it's usually the most easy way out to simply ignore them. You can always report them, and be done with it. Trying to fight them in any way just doesn't work. At least that's what I have seen during well over 15 if not 10 years. It's the internet; it's the norm that such users exist.

Responding to them usually only makes things worse, in other words, gives fuel to the fire.
“Trolls” tend to feed upon the frustration of their targets, and actually enjoy seeing one upset more than anything. So that being said, don't let them win, don't let them get to you! You'll have a lot more fun that way (unless, of course, you actually enjoy all that yourself as well).

Just my thoughts, of course!
(And no, I'm not saying anyone in particular here is a troll, or doing anything wrong. This is just my few gil on the subject at hand).


As for the subject that used to be on that hand, it will definitely be interesting to see (thought I am fully prepared to be disappointed) what they really meant with “The window scheme and GUI scripts for FFXI will be released so users can design their own interface features.”, and it is equally unfortunate to see that they are so adamant about keeping improving the macros out of the development scheme.

We can only hope for the best (or a beast), and keep up the candle!

[FrankReynolds]

I could have sworn that this thread was about getting some of the functionality that is widely used anyways into the game in a legitimate manner. Why are we debating whether third party apps are unfair? We all know they are unfair. If they were okay in general, no one would ask SE to change anything. They would all be over at the windower forums instead.

The point is that there are some much needed changes to the basic functionality of the game and other groups have already made major inroads to fixing them. This is much like prohibition. You make something that the vast majority of people want illegal, and you don't stop it. You just make a few people rich and a lot of people suffer.

[Nala]

Rosina you're the last person who should be calling any one a troll and i didn't realize whiteknight err onion was related to you.

There are methods to stream line macro execution but the methodology is still cumbersome and any mistakes made when pressing the macro's can find you in the wrong pallet and unable to execute other actions without re-executing one of the other macros in the chain.

The /set macro commands were a nice bone for consoles but still a farcry from a true equalizer. This ought to be a bigger concern for the Dev team vice many other minuscule and minute changes that they have planning. That or the whole gear design concept needs to be overhauled so that we have 1 do all be all sets and disable gear swapping all together (don't you f'n dare this is sarcasm)

[Smeggles]

The biggest problem I have with all the people supporting SE's stance on this and SE's stance is this:

WE ALREADY GEAR SWAP AS MUCH AS WE WANT! All we are asking for is not to have to use 3 macros to put the gear on, then 3 macros to change it back. This is a QUALITY OF LIFE issue.

Please note again, you aren't enabling us to do something new - we ALREADY DO IT!!!!!! It's just a pain in the ass to have to use so many macros to do it.