[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[SpankWustler]

Which six pieces would you choose?

I choose to slowly develop chronic stress injuries in my hands and wrists as I hit six or more macros to perform every action and switch back to my idle set after each action.

As my hands contort into beast-like claws and my heart fills with vengeance, I become more like a plotting super-villain each day.

[cidbahamut]

I choose to slowly develop chronic stress injuries in my hands and wrists as I hit six or more macros to perform every action and switch back to my idle set after each action.

As my hands contort into beast-like claws and my heart fills with vengeance, I become more like a plotting super-villain each day.

Been there.
Done that.

Still waiting on the T-shirt...

[Jackstin]

I choose to slowly develop chronic stress injuries in my hands and wrists as I hit six or more macros to perform every action and switch back to my idle set after each action.

As my hands contort into beast-like claws and my heart fills with vengeance, I become more like a plotting super-villain each day.

Or you could have one button press but only change 5 carefully chosen pieces.

[Zerich]

I choose to slowly develop chronic stress injuries in my hands and wrists as I hit six or more macros to perform every action and switch back to my idle set after each action.

As my hands contort into beast-like claws and my heart fills with vengeance, I become more like a plotting super-villain each day.

Spank has formed the only logical argument against gearswapping

Let's take this moment in.

[Jerbob]

The arguments against third party applications seem to boil down to the fact that they are not fair. They confer significant advantages that not everyone wants to, or is able to make use of. That is indisputible. Whether that's okay or not seems to be open to interpretation. I would personally say that it is not okay.

[Zerich]

The arguments against third party applications seem to boil down to the fact that they are not fair. They confer significant advantages that not everyone wants to, or is able to make use of. That is indisputible. Whether that's okay or not seems to be open to interpretation. I would personally say that it is not okay.

how are they not fair? the average household in the countries that this game supports, generally has access to a personal computer. use half a brain cell with google, and you'll realize the notion of "unfair" boils down to "stubborn".

[Jerbob]

how are they not fair? the average household in the countries that this game supports, generally has access to a personal computer. use half a brain cell with google, and you'll realize the notion of "unfair" boils down to "stubborn".

I can see your argument but I think it's necessary to be practical about this. A large number of people use FFXI on a platform that does not support third party applications. Another group of people do not use third party applications because they are in violation of the terms of service or because they object to there being differences in the level of gameplay provided by different platforms. This will not change. Of course I agree that people can swap to using a PC or ignore the terms of service, but they should not have to, nor should their choice be considered a bad one so that people can justify using these programs.

The concept of "fairness" is pretty nebulous at the best of times but I think that it's pretty hard to claim that a third party/non-third party comparison isn't objectively unfair. It may or may not be stubbornness that causes people to use consoles or refuse to use third party programs, but that's kind of irrelevant for as long as consoles are supported platforms and those programs remain in violation of the terms of service.

[Zerich]

I can see your argument but I think it's necessary to be practical about this. A large number of people use FFXI on a platform that does not support third party applications. Another group of people do not use third party applications because they are in violation of the terms of service or because they object to there being differences in the level of gameplay provided by different platforms. This will not change. Of course I agree that people can swap to using a PC or ignore the terms of service, but they should not have to, nor should their choice be considered a bad one so that people can justify using these programs.

The concept of "fairness" is pretty nebulous at the best of times but I think that it's pretty hard to claim that a third party/non-third party comparison isn't objectively unfair. It may or may not be stubbornness that causes people to use consoles or refuse to use third party programs, but that's kind of irrelevant for as long as consoles are supported platforms and those programs remain in violation of the terms of service.

It is breaking ToS, yes. That's all you've established. But you've yet to debunk the claim of "stubbornness"

Stubborn: Having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, esp. in spite of good arguments or reasons...

[Jerbob]

It is breaking ToS, yes. That's all you've established. But you've yet to debunk the claim of "stubbornness"

Stubborn: Having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, esp. in spite of good arguments or reasons...

It's easy to make generalisations about people and their situations without being realistic. A mass transition away from platforms that do not support third party applications is simply not going to happen for a whole host of reasons that are often far more complex than stubbornness. It is not possible to generalise. It's only necessary to visit one of the PS2 discussion threads to see a few of these reasons, of varying validity. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of them, but they are there.

Once it is accepted that there will always be people with valid reasons not to migrate to platforms that support third party applications, the question of whether it's fair arises again. The very fact that things are unfair with respect to people who have no reasonable choice in terms of platform - reasonable here in the context of a game, meaning people aren't going to go out of their way to make platform changes - is one of your definition of stubbornness' "good arguments". Breaking the ToS, I would argue, is a second, though apparently not everyone agrees on this point.

[fake edit] Yes, this is getting kind of off topic so I will stop here.

[Afania]

how are they not fair? the average household in the countries that this game supports, generally has access to a personal computer. use half a brain cell with google, and you'll realize the notion of "unfair" boils down to "stubborn".

Stubborn or not does not change the fact that using windower is against ToS(and by this time, admitted by SE that it's against design intention). You're basically telling everyone to cheat or else you're stubborn.