[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[Rosina]

The funny thing to me is that the community reps here all play or used to play FFXI anyway... and I'll bet money that they did/do use windower, so they completely understand what we're saying.



Worst...

Argument...

Ever! (but at least you use /echo and not /say I guess)

not all ffxi players used windower....

And never said it was an arguement. But w.e

[Demon6324236]

not all ffxi players used windower....

All? No, but alot more than there should be are breaking rules of the game for a simple feature SE refuses to fix.

[Arcon]

Acron you post or read the ffxiv forums yes?

Neither.

thats pretty much what they replied to gear swaping requests.

And as such, you may have anticipated it. But it doesn't make the reply any more valid.

[Rosina]

Neither.



And as such, you may have anticipated it. But it doesn't make the reply any more valid.

pretty much there have been @ least 12 gear swap threads on ffxiv which are either locked, or met with a similar reply that was put here.

But reality is i'm with yall... even posted a suggestion if macro room is limited. Just make equiment "books" similar to macro books. Have seys of equipment soved up for each jpb so u can just use a single macro line to swap put a full set of gear. That should not only dave macro room. But free up mavro lines to play multiple skills under 1 macro.

[0nionKn1ght]

Players: We want something!
SE: You can't have it.
Players: WE DEMAND A REASON!
SE: Here is the reason we have for you.
Players: WE DONT WANT THIS REASON IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND HERE ARE 134 POSTS AS TO WHY!
SE: Ok then. So?
Players: If THIS was a car and we bought shoes from a pokemon master on the moon in accordance to american legislature we would be ENTITLED to a refund and we demand 10 years of payments returned now!
SE: Yeah....no.

I honestly get the feeling some people in this game don't know what they want, and also don't know how an issue that has been around for 10 years is only now causing some people in this thread to lay an egg at how angry they are. The rest of us just make do or work around it. Why you feel the need to blow a gasket is beyond me. You people (not all, some of you seem lovely to be honest) need to chill the heck out and calm down. Life is bigger than a 10 year old game no one plays anymore.

[Demon6324236]

Life is bigger than a 10 year old game no one plays anymore.

Blasphemy!

No really tho, its not just now that people have been complaining about macros or saying something about it. People have complained for a long~ time, myself I don't say much unless its a thread like this where people talk about it because it feels like a waste of time. SE does not stop Windower users very effectively, and SE does not do what needs to be done to give people a reason to stop using it. Simple way to say it is SE is not willing to fix their game in a way players wont go to 3rd parties for features SE refuses to add.

The only hope is that the new UI which is PC only is a response to Windower. If it adds enough and is open enough for people to use it well, and makes Windower unneeded then SE will do a good job. Or they can just as easily mess it up and get nothing from it except more people saying they have no idea what they are doing and that they support the use of 3rd party programs via doing nothing to stop them.

[FrankReynolds]

Players: We want something!
SE: You can't have it.
Players: WE DEMAND A REASON!
SE: Here is the reason we have for you.
Players: WE DONT WANT THIS REASON IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND HERE ARE 134 POSTS AS TO WHY!
SE: Ok then. So?
Players: If THIS was a car and we bought shoes from a pokemon master on the moon in accordance to american legislature we would be ENTITLED to a refund and we demand 10 years of payments returned now!
SE: Yeah....no.

I honestly get the feeling some people in this game don't know what they want, and also don't know how an issue that has been around for 10 years is only now causing some people in this thread to lay an egg at how angry they are. The rest of us just make do or work around it. Why you feel the need to blow a gasket is beyond me. You people (not all, some of you seem lovely to be honest) need to chill the heck out and calm down. Life is bigger than a 10 year old game no one plays anymore.

Cool kids don't care about anything right?

Too bad this is a forum full of MMO Players. No cool kids here. We care about this game enough to not only pay for it, but post in the suggestion forums as well, and so do you.

There are millions of examples of things in the world that "work fine" but get replaced every day. Playing football worked fine, but I prefer FFXI. The macro system has needed updating for a very long time now. The game has outgrown it.

SE is basically saying "Helmets are not allowed in the rules, and we're not going to make helmets... but we don't actually have any means / reason to enforce the rules, so all you people without helmets are about to get F***ed up. Have fun guys "

[0nionKn1ght]

Cool kids don't care about anything right?

Too bad this is a forum full of MMO Players. No cool kids here. We care about this game enough to not only pay for it, but post in the suggestion forums as well, and so do you.

There are millions of examples of things in the world that "work fine" but get replaced every day. Playing football worked fine, but I prefer FFXI. The macro system has needed updating for a very long time now. The game has outgrown it.

SE is basically saying "Helmets are not allowed in the rules, and we're not going to make helmets... but we don't actually have any means / reason to enforce the rules, so all you people without helmets are about to get F***ed up. Have fun guys "

The reasoning isn't the problem. If you want to make suggestions then more power to you, but when you are told why it won't happen, this doesn't give you the right to start snarling and foaming at the mouth. The issue is a moot point anyways, as they keep saying it's not going to happen, the same as how they categorically said every patch that the level cap was never going to raise from 75, so drop it and move on.

There is no problem with making suggestions, but nothing gives anyone the right to be a complete tool about it in the process.

[Arcon]

The reasoning isn't the problem. If you want to make suggestions then more power to you, but when you are told why it won't happen, this doesn't give you the right to start snarling and foaming at the mouth. The issue is a moot point anyways, as they keep saying it's not going to happen, the same as how they categorically said every patch that the level cap was never going to raise from 75, so drop it and move on.

There is no problem with making suggestions, but nothing gives anyone the right to be a complete tool about it in the process.

And how were/are we being tools, exactly?

[0nionKn1ght]

And how were/are we being tools, exactly?

I wouldn't be surprised if that was their reasoning, seeing as how their reasoning is almost always wrong.

You know, SE can be so ostrich-like at times, it's not funny.

You can't seriously tell us you don't know that a large number , possibly the majority by now, of PC players use the universally-known third-party add-on that makes swapping entire gear for every attack possible using a single key; many use it just for a decent macro capability, not the pseudo-botting it also allows.

Yet you stubbornly refuse to accept this fact and provide an official means of doing this for the minority (I expect) of PC players who don't want to cheat and those playing on consoles where such cheating isn't allowed.

/shakeshead

Personally I don't need that capability but it would be nice to have for occasional use, but I also recognise that many people think is absolutely required for tackling the high-end end-game content. The fact vast numbers have that because they're willing to cheat isn't fair to the rest who aren't; even FFXIV has a more usable macro system, how about even implementing THAT???

Those 2 posts alone are pretty arrogant and "tooly", and thats just on this page of the thread. Call out as much as you want, in my opinion I think a good chunk of the people posting here are vile, but there seem to be some nice people to it kind of balances. There is a group of 3 of you in particular that seem to serve only to derail threads and troll, Cidbahamut and Zerich being 2 of the constant offenders.