[Suggestion] Consolidating Equip Macros

[tyrantsyn]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

Okay than, can you up the amount of line's than?

[Westyle]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that we understand everyone's viewpoints as to why swapping additional gear via macros would be favorable, and to some, it may not.

The following policies were established from the beginning after thoroughly exploring the macro feature:

1. The fundamental rule is that macros execute one action per line. (Excluding “/wait”)
2. It is not possible to automate things nor call other macros within a macro.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, we do not plan to expand macros and we appreciate your understanding.

Calling up an equipment set is considered "automation?" I don't see how anything can be exploited by people quickly switching armor. I see this as a well overdue and needed change.

Right now I have to switch between two separate lines of macros to be efficient at my job, and even then I'm still missing some things I need. And hitting more than 1 macro to do an ability? That just doesn't happen.
I had two macros set up for Sneak Attack once, one for 6 pieces of equipment and one with 5 pieces + Sneak Attack. This also meant I needed 2 macros to switch back to TP gear. What happened? The first macro would get the shaft because I'd either forget or need to quickly use Sneak Attack and hit it's macro out of need or reflex.

Macros are already stored client side anyway, so what's the issue with expansion?

[Cowardlybabooon]

I'm usually pretty nice on these forums, but this might sound a bit offensive to SE, so I hope it's taken objectively. I think the playerbase understands that those features would allow for some level of automation which may feel like botting to SE. However, what this close-minded stance really does is solidify the gap between those who use the unofficial windower and those who don't. And that's not even talking about the spellcast plugin which run's circles around it. World of Warcraft (the enemy, I know) controls it's plugins rather than blindly stopping them all. They only have 10 times the subscriptions that FFXI has though. /jab

From a purely objective point of view, how the hell do you expect players to use something like twilight cape. More specifically, if a player wishes to have a searing cape or something for when the spell they are casting does not match the weather/day, but wants to use the twilight cape when it does match the weather/day. Considering how often weather changes, should this player constantly change their gear swap macros, or just be constantly button mashing during the now ridiculously fast casting times that elemental celerity provides for blm? A simple If/Then/Else interface would fix this. Even if you just make it apply to equip commands!!!!! Not sure if you realize these programs do exist and people will use them until SE does it better, and they will have a huge advantage over those that don't. I am not a fan of botting or anything related to that, so once again, don't take this the wrong way but please do listen.

[Catmato]

World of Warcraft controls it's plugins rather than pretending they don't exist.

FTFY.

To the devs: We aren't asking to be able to press one macro, then go afk for an hour. We just want a way to use this situational gear without hitting three equip macros for every action (or cheating). I'm not really certain what kind of looping macro situation you seem to be afraid of. It's not like you can do anything worthwhile with no player interaction.

[FrankReynolds]

Here square and crew, I have an easy fix for you guys. Go to the website and download a copy of spell-cast. Give it to your engineers. Have them remove functionality that does not specifically relate to gear swaps. Plug it into your official windower. Profit.

... or just ignore this thread and allow your users to assume that you don't mind if they use third party apps.

On a side note, I'm going to assume that this response was to something that the JP threads asked for, because the OP didn't say anything about automating anything and the one action per line thing just doesn't make sense at all.

[0nionKn1ght]

Good lord people, the rep is a customer support guy, not a developer. They just gave you an honest and clear answer saying the macro system is as it is. People have used Windower for 10 years, im pretty positive that this is no shock to them.

Get out of their throat and give them some credit for answering your query and stop overreacting to it. This has been known forever.

[FrankReynolds]

Good lord people, the rep is a customer support guy, not a developer. They just gave you an honest and clear answer saying the macro system is as it is. People have used Windower for 10 years, im pretty positive that this is no shock to them.

Get out of their throat and give them some credit for answering your query and stop overreacting to it. This has been known forever.

I don't see anything in that response that answers the OP. Take your internetz rage somewhere else.

[cidbahamut]

Good lord people, the rep is a customer support guy, not a developer. They just gave you an honest and clear answer saying the macro system is as it is. People have used Windower for 10 years, im pretty positive that this is no shock to them.

Get out of their throat and give them some credit for answering your query and stop overreacting to it. This has been known forever.

[0nionKn1ght]

[Zerich]

not a meme