Suggestion: Restorable Relic/Mythic/Empyreal Weapons

[Avina]

I know it is has been discussed before, but usually these topics take the form of players requesting SE staff to specifically restore their relic/mythic/empyrean weapons. This isn't one of those topics; actually, this suggestion is in response to how difficult (impossible) it is to get these weapons back should you accidentally drop them/if you are hacked and the hacker drops them.

We all know how long it takes to make these weapons; it is an absurd amount of time of hard work, often requiring the help of many other players. And for good reason; these weapons are the best in the game, and they should be hard to obtain. However time and time again I have read reports or personally known of players who accidentally drop their weapons, or were hacked, and being told by Square-Enix Customer Support that they cannot get their weapons back, no ifs, ands, or buts.

There's some significant problems with this, given the time required to reobtain these weapons. And I can't help but wonder why there isn't an in-game NPC who can just regift the weapons should any of the above occur. We've already seen the option put into the game where players can drop, and even CHOOSE, different end-of-mission rewards such as Rajas ring, from the expansion mission lines. Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons arguably take SIGNIFICANLTY longer than any of the expansion lines to complete... these days you could level a character, beat an entire expansion again before you'd come close to re-completing a lost relic/mythic/empyrean weapon.

The point being: why isn't this feature implemented, especially with Square-Enix Customer Support seems to be helpless to actually address the problem? These weapons could also be remedied by making them undroppable items, much like the Moogle slips. I can't imagine any players being against this and surely the game keeps track of the Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons that players obtain in some way in order to come up with those Vana'diel Census statistics. Furthermore, this is something that a player could very easily quit over, and many have. It would go miles for Square-Enix's Customer Support image (which needs improvement) if such a feature would be implemented. It may even bring players back to the game if weapons that were dropped in the past could be reobtained. But I cannot fathom why anyone would be against an NPC that could check your character's history and regift you with one of these weapons, even in their STARTING forms.

Can a rep comment on this? Or pass this along to the devs?

[Karbuncle]

I support the idea of being able to recover your relic/mythic if you drop it, Since accidents do happen, even though very very very rarely.

But i think we should have a method to reobtain Empyrean weapons as well, Since there's no such thing as an Empyreal weapon.

[Avina]

But i think we should have a method to reobtain Empyrean weapons as well, Since there's no such thing as an Empyreal weapon.

Haha, noted and changed.

[katiekat]

its a good idea but sadly the davs will say sumthing along the lines of "we cant becuse the system will be abused"tho i do feal it is sumthing that is neaded.

[Avina]

its a good idea but sadly the davs will say sumthing along the lines of "we cant becuse the system will be abused"tho i do feal it is sumthing that is neaded.

How could it be abused? If they must, make it involve a little mini quest, or can only be done once every week... but I see little reason as to how it could be abused, as there really is no reason to drop these weapons anyways to begin with.

If there is an actual reason to specifically block something like this, I think it'd be really helpful to know what that reason is. I don't think such a reason exists, though.

[Demon6324236]

I think Katie meant like people could lie, but I'm sure they can tell you have had it or not.

[Karbuncle]

Could do it this way - Once you complete the weapon, You can go to an NPC to "Register" It, Once registered, You can reclaim it from the NPC once every 30 days if you happen to drop or misplace it.

Simple fix :O

[Demon6324236]

Could do it this way - Once you complete the weapon, You can go to an NPC to "Register" It, Once registered, You can reclaim it from the NPC once every 30 days if you happen to drop or misplace it.

Simple fix :O

Would be nice, at that same time they might also be able to let you update it so if you get it to lv80 you can get it back at 80, not sure about that though.

[DaBackpack]

Can't you mail these weapons to other characters on the same account like you can other Rare/Ex items? That's the only situation where I can see this becoming an issue of abusing a restore function.

I really do think it should be possible to get back a dropped weapon though. I'd quit if I dropped a mythic.

[Avina]

I'm pretty sure that Square-Enix has a way of keeping track who, at the very least, has obtained the base form of these weapons. Look at the Vana'diel Census, it shows it all right there, how many of each of the super weapons were obtained. I'm almost positive the server tracks the data.

There have been plenty of players who have been ruined by the lack of this function, many who have quit over it, but could come back if such a feature were implemented. But obviously Square-Enix knows that there are some items that people couldn't bear to lose... which is why they made those moogle slips undroppable. These super weapons are even in a greater class of their own, and deserve at least the same protection as those Moogle slips.

If the dev response is: "Moogle slips can be dropped if you remove all items from them, and we hesitate to design gear that cannot truly be dropped EVER, relics/mythics/empys or otherwise" a far more acceptable solution would be to make them undroppable, but generate an NPC that players could trade the item to that deletes it if they truly wanted to preserve that feature. I guarantee though that NPC would never be used and frankly would be a great waste of programming time.

But I think, that taken aside, GMs or customer support should be able to restore these weapons. Its clear no one does this on purpose and is a brutal policy to have in place to tell your most dedicated players that they are out of luck. I personally know someone this happened to who played the game since release and he doesn't have the will to turn the game on anymore, and prior to this he thoroughly enjoyed the game and actively helped people build their own weapons.

If SE doesn't want to involve GMs or customer support in this process, then implement an in-game solution that checks the player's history. It shouldn't be that difficult.