Bring back Long spawn/Rare WORLD HNM but put drops in legion/einherjar/other bc also

[Trisscar]

Legion? Really? What sort of HNM are you planning on fighting? The new PW or AV?

Oy, don't give Square any ideas now. They'd might actually do it.

[Apie]

Final Fantasy XIV has the right idea when it comes to NMs, spawns every 5 minutes on the dot and no placeholders. At first I thought that was stupid, but after a while, I realised that it's a thousand times better than waiting hours on FFXI for a small chance of pop and an even smaller chance of drop. I've been playing FFXI since it was first released and ever since FfXIV was drastically overhauled, it has actually become a much funner game than FFXI, sure it has very little content when compared to FFXI, which is not surprising, 10 years of content versus 1 year of content, but I never feel the fruatration that FFXI causes with even the smallest thing taking forever to do. This game needs less wait and more gaming. I dont miss camping black triple stars for 5 RL days straight to kill him 6 times, thats almost once a day and thats crappy useless black triple stars... I've been spoiled by FFXIV, Im now used to wanting to do something and 1 hour later its done, instead the 19 hours it would take to do something similar in FFXI. Ive got a lot of love for FFXI, but I probably won't ever get anymore highend stuff on here until they catch up with the improvements FFXIV offers already. Yes, yes, I know you all hate FFXIV, play the current build, it is much better than it was last year, it's like comparing the FFXI of 8 years ago with the FFXI of today, a drastic improvement.

[Trisscar]

Final Fantasy XIV has the right idea when it comes to NMs, spawns every 5 minutes on the dot and no placeholders. At first I thought that was stupid, but after a while, I realised that it's a thousand times better than waiting hours on FFXI for a small chance of pop and an even smaller chance of drop. I've been playing FFXI since it was first released and ever since FfXIV was drastically overhauled, it has actually become a much funner game than FFXI, sure it has very little content when compared to FFXI, which is not surprising, 10 years of content versus 1 year of content, but I never feel the fruatration that FFXI causes with even the smallest thing taking forever to do. This game needs less wait and more gaming. I dont miss camping black triple stars for 5 RL days straight to kill him 6 times, thats almost once a day and thats crappy useless black triple stars... I've been spoiled by FFXIV, Im now used to wanting to do something and 1 hour later its done, instead the 19 hours it would take to do something similar in FFXI. Ive got a lot of love for FFXI, but I probably won't ever get anymore highend stuff on here until they catch up with the improvements FFXIV offers already. Yes, yes, I know you all hate FFXIV, play the current build, it is much better than it was last year, it's like comparing the FFXI of 8 years ago with the FFXI of today, a drastic improvement.

As long as that bat, as well as similarly nocturnal mobs, only pops at night. Otherwise, I agree.

Edit: I just remembered that it spawns in a cave, so isn't exactly nocturnal. Nothing to see here.

[Apie]

Nah, its outside in rol.fields, but yeah I agree with you, if its a nighttime mob, then nighttime only is definitely acceptable.

[Trisscar]

Nah, its outside in rol.fields, but yeah I agree with you, if its a nighttime mob, then nighttime only is definitely acceptable.

Sorry, thought you was talking about a bat NM with a similar sounding name in the dunes (it spawns in one of two caves). Now where I agree they need to remove the lotto spawns all together and shorten the respawns quite a bit, I think shorting them all to 5 minutes like you suggest is a bit excessive. Some of these NM are killed for Empy trials, remember.

[Demon6324236]

Sorry, thought you was talking about a bat NM with a similar sounding name in the dunes (it spawns in one of two caves). Now where I agree they need to remove the lotto spawns all together and shorten the respawns quite a bit, I think shorting them all to 5 minutes like you suggest is a bit excessive. Some of these NM are killed for Empy trials, remember.

Golden Bat(Valk)
Black Triple Stars(Rolen)

[Rosina]

Sorry, thought you was talking about a bat NM with a similar sounding name in the dunes (it spawns in one of two caves). Now where I agree they need to remove the lotto spawns all together and shorten the respawns quite a bit, I think shorting them all to 5 minutes like you suggest is a bit excessive. Some of these NM are killed for Empy trials, remember.

Nnd some of those trial mobs are used in other quests, and sometimes not every trial hunter invites you for ur stuff. (looking at you belt nm's and ninjas) So really, it will just let them complete the thing faster vs waiting hours to kill something.

I know a ton of ppl on lakshmi and odin who refuse to do the nm trails cuz of the wait times for those nms. I also had several friends do nm runs and got jipped on help. (even tho their said they would help me.)

But ya hate to say, how ffxiv did nm is spot on. You always see the nms up Which liven up the would a great deal... we already have nm like that who drop syn items.

[Rosina]

(text limit) I played ffxiv eariler this year and on and off last year. It was improved greatly. And will be improving a ton more coming 2.0. You guys get on my case for having an opinion w/o experiancing stuff. Well don't say ffxiv sucks if you only played it @ launch. I can't wait for ps3 launch. :3

only issue you guys may have is you can't gear swap in fights. And SE is adement about not adding it.

[Trisscar]

and some of those trail mobs are used in other quests, and sometimes now every trial hunter invites you for ur stuff. (looking at you belt nm's and ninjas) So really, it will just let them complete the thing faster vs waiting hours to kill something.

I know a ton of ppl on lakshmi and odin who refuse to do the nm trails cuz of the wait times for those nms. I also had several friends do nm runs and got jipped on help. (even tho their said they would help me.)

But ya hate to say, how ffxiv did nm is spot on. You always see the nms up Which liven up the would a great deal... we already have nm like that who drop syn items.

???

I'm sorry, but what's so hard about camping the non VNM parts of the trials? Sub BST or RNG and getting them is Childs play. As for the VNM themselves, I would agree that needs adjusting. As far as I know only a relative handful of jobs can solo them and getting help for them (as you say) is a lot like pulling teeth.

Compare this to the Aby HNMs (a large number of which can be done solo) and the VNM portion becomes the most absurd part of any trial (not the metals, and not the Qilin pixie dust).

[Rosina]

@ triss
I never said it was hard, they refuse to do it because of the time sink and wait is boring. Look at ninja trial, you hunt out the nms used for monk belt quests. And those are a b- to spawn since they lotto nm. (did belts 3 times) and one of those times i didn't know it was used for trials till an allience of ppl started harrassing me for killing lamburt which i needed for purple belt. Didn't even know they was in the area. infact one of the gave me a death threat.... ~.~

i gotta question though a bit off topic, what is with this solo mantality going on recently?