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  1. #311
    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumbeen View Post

    This interpretation is strengthened by the fact that they said they are not going to reduce the alex cost of mythic weapons. If we do believe that they are going to do what they say about mythics, and leave the current alex cost in place, and also believe that "weapons" in the last paragraph was referring to empyrean weapons as well as relics and mythics, then that means the acquisition of empyrean weapons must greatly increase in difficulty to match that of mythics.

    Since I find it highly unlikely that they are going to increase the difficulty to acquire empyreans to match that of mythics, I am inclined to believe that "weapons" as they stated in the last paragraph, is only referring to mythics and relics.

    It's quite possible that the next two stages on Empyrean weapons may be greatly increased in difficulty.
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    Player Unctgtg's Avatar
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    Yes that may be true but I have a feeling that we will be getting quite a few fragments. Wish SE would answer us already.
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    99 Drk, 99 Sch, 99 Bst, 99 Geo and a ton of other jobs there
    110 +5 Bonecraft
    Level 99 Relic Scythe

  3. #313
    Player Unctgtg's Avatar
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    Hey SE come on already.
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    99 Drk, 99 Sch, 99 Bst, 99 Geo and a ton of other jobs there
    110 +5 Bonecraft
    Level 99 Relic Scythe

  4. #314
    Player Kiba's Avatar
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    [dev1016] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments Scheduled for When ^^?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    It's quite possible that the next two stages on Empyrean weapons may be greatly increased in difficulty.
    That I don't think so.

    The reason is that Aby is the big sale for FFXI and from all other relative updates (multiple ???) you can tell SE wants to keep it this way, and because so many n00n got emp wpn now if they bump up the difficulties upgrading they will probably destroy this forum in a day.
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    Player Kiba's Avatar
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    Okay, [dev1016] became Grounds of Valor Adjustments ^^;

    [dev1017] Relic & Mythic Adjustments Scheduled for [date]
    {Yes, Please} ^^
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  7. #317
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    I believe the new Relic buffs will come with the 95 cap.

    I also hope the dev's are careful with this buff a small number of Relic weapons are currently more powerful then their Empryean counter parts, which I firmly agree on Relics being superior. I just don't want to see them buffed to the point Mythic or Empryean weapons are not even worth having.
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    Last edited by Toren; 06-02-2011 at 08:39 AM. Reason: typing errors fixed
    Former Toren of Fairy

  8. #318
    Player DrStrangelove's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toren View Post
    I believe the new Relic buffs will come with the 95 cap.

    I also hope the dev's are careful with this buff a small number of Relic weapons are currently more powerful then their Empryean counter parts, which I firmly agree on Relics being superior. I just don't want to see them buffed to the point Mythic or Empryean weapons are not even worth having.
    A) Please list the relic weapons that are better. Bow, gun, h2h, great katana, great axe, katana, staff certainly not. Polearm, club and scythe likely not. Great sword, axe and sword I'm not sure of so may be a wash. That leaves shield and horn and dagger. Certainly a lot of people rate those well. I'm highly doubtful that the mythics fare this well in comparison.

    B) Please justify the notion that SHOULD SE actually make relics and mythics 5% better than empyreans, that people will choose not to do a weapon that can be completed by a duo today in a few weeks and will choose instead to spend months / years to collect 120 million gil to do a relic.

    The main problem with your argument is that since September when the new WS made empyreans superior and the new levels made them easy to obtain, there have been well over 4,000 empyreans created while the number of completed relics and mythics has fallen to a dribble.

    Either empyreans are really far easier to get than relics/mythics or really much better than relics/mythics or both. (In most cases the answer is that it's both.)

    Unless you want SE to make relics and mythics better than empyreans, then you must be ready to ask SE to make it MUCH easier to get relics and mythics than empyreans. Otherwise, what you want is the status quo.

    Keep in mind also, that WOE magian weapons are in many cases also better than relics, at least in Abyssea, while in many cases, often better outside.

    You should not try to protect the feelings of people that obtained weapons that are the easiest to get and the best to have. Just enjoy the fact that SE has enabled so many people to easily stomp all over the efforts that others made. I know the people who have gotten 8 or 9 of these in the last few months are quite happy!
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  9. #319
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    closer to 200m now that currency price going up. i know aegis on valefor is something like 230m if you convert the currency to gil.
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  10. #320
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    Actually, I believe Relic and Mythic GKT are pretty close. I think relic gun is actually better than empy for RNG, Not sure about Bow but SAM can use bow as well so thats a use.

    As for as Scythe, not sure since DRK is generally a dead job anyways.

    From what ive heard, people make a big deal but only H2H, Gaxe, Katana, Sword ( im pretty sure) and gun for COR are better then their relics.
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