ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Potpressure]

I'm sorry to bring this up because I doubt this effects that many people. But this seems a little unbalanced. Since the update the Lv.85-90 Relic weapon trial has become a lot more easy and faster to complete. While Lv.85-90 Mythic weapon trials are still very time consuming. You see, now that dynamis NMs like those needed for the relic trial are spawn NMs now, this trial can be done as part of a 2 hour dynamis run. But with the Mythic weapon trials you need to kill T4 ZNM three times. With only being able to trade 10 pics a game day to the NPC for Zeni. It takes 27 NMs in total for the 3 T4's needed. That's a minimum of 54,000 Zeni and a maximum of 162,000. With the average pic giving about 60 Zeni, that's 900 pics, 90 hours to trade them all or 3 days and 18 hours minimum! Than the 4,000~10,000 Zeni needed for the T4's and 500 Zeni for each person helping to access the island. Also since ZNM is something people don't do as much, less people have Zeni. Making the zeni farming fall on the trial holder. If you are not lucky enough to have friend with zeni to help pop all this stuff and hold trophies and key items. This takes even longer since you can only hold one pop item, trophy, or key item at a time. Needing to continue going from the NM spawn to the NPC to get another pop item and trade trophy than back to the spawn. I know it has been said that they will be making improvements and adjustments in order to rejuvenate salvage, assault, and other Treasures of Aht Urghan content. I just wanted to make sure this was not overlooked.
Thank You!
Potpressure from Odin!

[blowfin]

SE stated that there are no plans to make Alexandrite more available and no plans to lower the cost of a Mythic.

SE also stated that they plan to balance the difficulty of creating Mythics and Relics.

Therefor SE plans to increase the difficulty of creating a Relic.

They didn`t say anything remotely resembling the last line.

Along with that, we are also planning to make an adjustment on both time and cost required to create and strengthen these weapons.
Eventually, we would like to even out the difference on time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

If anything from that statement, they plan to balance out acquiring Mythics and Relics to be more in line with Empyrean. i.e Easier to obtain.

[Bumbeen]

If anything from that statement, they plan to balance out acquiring Mythics and Relics to be more in line with Empyrean. i.e Easier to obtain.

I think it's clear, due to the latest info about alex cost not being reduced, that they were only talking about relics and mythics in that statement.

[blowfin]

I think it's clear, due to the latest info about alex cost not being reduced, that they were only talking about relics and mythics in that statement.

See full statement below, you`re incorrect.

We are aware that there currently exists a major difference between the strength of Empyrean weapons and that of Relic and Mythic weapons.

In regards to that balance issue, we are planning to make adjustments. We plan to create a higher level of balance by strengthening both Relic and Mythic weapons instead of simply weakening Empyrean weapons.

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

[Bumbeen]

You said balance out acquiring mythics and relics to be in line with empyrean.

The only information in that post about acquiring weapons is the last paragraph which states:

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

1)Empyrean weapons are not mentioned

2)They recently said they are not reducing the alex cost of mythics, which are the biggest cockblock for acquiring one. So this leads us to believe that when they said "we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons", weapons is only referring to mythics and relics, not empyreans.

Or are you suggesting that they are going to make empyreans as difficult to acquire as mythics?

[blowfin]

1)Empyrean weapons are not mentioned

Empyrean weapons are quite clearly mentioned in the first paragraph of the statement. The statement was a direct response to people`s concerns about Empys being way easier to get than Mythic and Relic.

They also followed up with:
- In regards to that balance issue (the one mentioned in the first paragraph)
- Along with that (referring back to the second paragraph, inclusive of the first: see above)

Anyway, that fact is that they`ve already stated they intend to have more Dynamis currency in circulation, which is a step towards making Relics easier to obtain, not harder. Unless you want to dispute what they openly stated there too.

[Bumbeen]

You said balance out acquiring mythics and relics to be in line with empyrean.

The only information in that post about acquiring weapons is the last paragraph which states:

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

1)Empyrean weapons are not mentioned in the last paragraph where it talks about acquisition.

2)They recently said they are not reducing the alex cost of mythics, which are the biggest cockblock for acquiring one. So this leads us to believe that when they said "we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons", weapons is only referring to mythics and relics, not empyreans.

Or are you suggesting that they are going to make empyreans as difficult to acquire as mythics?

Please reread the emphasized parts in my reply to you.

[blowfin]

Please reread the emphasized parts in my reply to you.

I did, you`re still wrong. The whole statement is about Empys vs. Relics/Mythics. You can`t just disassociate the last paragraph for the purposes of proving a point...

Lord knows why you`d want to think they intend to make relics harder anyway.

Anyway, I`m done with this apart from coming back in a year and saying `I told you so`.

[Bumbeen]

I did, you`re still wrong. The whole statement is about Empys vs. Relics/Mythics. You can`t just disassociate the last paragraph for the purposes of proving a point...

Lord knows why you`d want to think they intend to make relics harder anyway.

Anyway, I`m done with this apart from coming back in a year and saying `I told you so`.

It doesn't appear to me that the last paragraph is referring to empyrean weapons. Since the sentence before that referred only to mythics and relics. The earlier paragraph referring to empyreans was not talking about acquisition, only about the strength of the weapons.

This interpretation is strengthened by the fact that they said they are not going to reduce the alex cost of mythic weapons. If we do believe that they are going to do what they say about mythics, and leave the current alex cost in place, and also believe that "weapons" in the last paragraph was referring to empyrean weapons as well as relics and mythics, then that means the acquisition of empyrean weapons must greatly increase in difficulty to match that of mythics.

Since I find it highly unlikely that they are going to increase the difficulty to acquire empyreans to match that of mythics, I am inclined to believe that "weapons" as they stated in the last paragraph, is only referring to mythics and relics.

[Kiba]

Do you seriously think they would post here and say they are going to fix it, follow through by adjusting aegis and burtgang, and then just leave the rest as they are?

If you have a relic you've been playing for a while. This is still SE we're talking about...

Although the term ninja fix is used on changes done silently I think also fits this situation. With the lack of insight on providing information and continuous ignoring of inquiries I seriously am doubtful. And I'm sure many others like me feel the same. It may be that the excuse will be "we fixed aegis and burtgang" that should count for ALL relics and mythics and players should already assume these are the adjustment we said we'll do. Once again this is an assumption and guess, not concrete at all. The fact is that no update notes said anything about "this is the first part of our adjustments on relic and mythic weapons. more adjustments will be expected by [this future version update]. And because of this players concerned about this are lost, asking "was that it?" But if that really is a case, a poorly half done job was done and is pathetic.

Many mistakes have been done over the years and have been buried over time through improvements in development. So my trust and faith has not been absolute. Point comes down if they want us to believe they are working on this then it should not be difficult just to respond and provide information. It is truly disappointing every other day a new set of responses but none on this when several have inquired around time community reps are posting.