How to avoid Bots becoming required again to experiance endgame content in FFXI.

[Tamoa]

I know more then you think. My suggestion was around how to avoid a bot in question, or means to report the usage of one.

Don't you think players have reported other players for botting for years already?

"FAFNIR POPPED PURPLE OMG BOT CALL GM!!"
"I GOT OUTCLAIMED OMG BOT CALL GM (although I have no idea if that player is actually botting or not)!!"
"I DON'T LIKE THAT DUDE, GONNA CALL GM AND SAY HE'S BOTTING!!"

Even in cases where it was rather obvious someone was botting - i.e. claim and then not move an inch afterwards and after the fight was over they were still standing in the same spot - nothing ever happened when they were reported.

[Zerich]

I know more then you think. My suggestion was around how to avoid a bot in question, or means to report the usage of one.

1) You don't know more than suspected.
2) You can't report or prove a bot, unless the botter is brain-dead.

[Rosina]

1) You don't know more than suspected.
2) You can't report or prove a bot, unless the botter is brain-dead.

idk a lvl 21 in behemoths domain that is a tarutaru on /follow with little to no gear a good indication of one >.>;;

and i meant for a better means to report a bot. But really 2012 if ppl using bots to claim... that pretty sad.

o btw the lvl 21 in question was the one who claimed behemoth.

[Habu]

These threads are getting dumber and dumber lol

[Rosina]

Anyway guys. At least I come up with suggestion and stay on topic best I can. >.> I don't rudely call people out on said suggestion with asinine claims.

[Demon6324236]

Anyway guys. At least I come up with suggestion and stay on topic best I can. >.> I don't rudely call people out on said suggestion with asinine claims.

Admittedly correct, many people keep going off topics 30 seconds into it.

[Chilloa]

idk a lvl 21 in behemoths domain that is a tarutaru on /follow with little to no gear a good indication of one >.>;;

and i meant for a better means to report a bot. But really 2012 if ppl using bots to claim... that pretty sad.

o btw the lvl 21 in question was the one who claimed behemoth.

That doesn't necessarily prove the person in question is a bot. It's not against the ToS for a level 21 Tarutaru with no gear to go out to Behemoths Dominion and claim a Behemoth. (Or now, pop one.) I mean what's stopping me, someone who doesn't bot, from going out and doing that? Alright sure, to the common eye someone named "Dbafjbalf" on anon with no gear or level one RSE gear claiming an HNM has like a 99.99% chance of being a bot. But that .01% chance is exactly why SE can't just give them the ban hammer. What if it was a real player? They weren't doing anything wrong.

[Zerich]

These threads are getting dumber and dumber lol

i agree 100% habu...it's still funny though.

[Zerich]

That doesn't necessarily prove the person in question is a bot. It's not against the ToS for a level 21 Tarutaru with no gear to go out to Behemoths Dominion and claim a Behemoth. (Or now, pop one.) I mean what's stopping me, someone who doesn't bot, from going out and doing that? Alright sure, to the common eye someone named "Dbafjbalf" on anon with no gear or level one RSE gear claiming an HNM has like a 99.99% chance of being a bot. But that .01% chance is exactly why SE can't just give them the ban hammer. What if it was a real player? They weren't doing anything wrong.

rosa thinks dual boxing is botting...what's new? (deductive reasoning)

[Rosina]

Admittedly correct, many people keep going off topics 30 seconds into it.

ya hopefuly my making a gear swap thread will help. they have a place to get on my case now lol.

anyway let me make my suggestion easier to understand.
how to avoid botting or making conent unbottable (to a degree)

1) make the hnm in question have a low spawn time. under 1 hour. This ensures the hnm is generally up rather quickly and people get the gear they so desperately need faster. which is a big reason for using a bot.

2) make the hnm force poped. you can use a similar style to sky gods, or ohot nm where you collect a set of items that you need to pop it. Or be crafted into a pop item.

3) have a better means to report the use of a bot. if a player things a bot is use have a specific tag under gm call and certain gm under this to investigate a claim quicker.

4) have the hnm in question spawn similar to despot. Where players kill the normal mobs that spawns the hnm claimed to them.