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  1. 03-18-2011 12:46 AM #1
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    Backup servers?

    I'm just curious wouldn't it been possible for SE to have Backup servers let say in US to avoid this disaster in japan of the server being shut down for a week or more?
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  2. 03-18-2011 12:51 AM #2
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    hahahaha no offense just funny. Have seen this a dozen times now. Good idea but would be to costly to do & would not be able to keep it fully updated with live updates. back-up servers are in alot of company's but when you are running servers at the large scale these guys are there only means for a backup is at the main unit in Japan. The do have a backup server in case their current one crashes, but it is not for us to play off of more a backup of the system in case the servers crash and need replacing the have all their work backed up.
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  3. 03-18-2011 12:52 AM #3
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    this has been beaten to death already in multiple threads here.

    In short...off-site failover servers is not practical for a project of this scope, and any backup will have some age on it simply due to the time it takes to complete the backup process. Depending on the method used, they could even be days old. Best case scenario is if they already have a datacenter capable of housing everything, they could take a backup of the data in it's current offline state, then transfer that to another location and bring it back up--but that will take a considerable amount of time to do. We're not talking about just a handful of simple servers here. It is a MASSIVE data center with terabytes of data.

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  4. 03-18-2011 12:53 AM #4
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    The way you word the question makes it seem like the disaster is the server being down.
    If it helps you to cope, pretend that you JUST got tod on fafnir and now you will begin camping.
    Have patience.
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  5. 03-18-2011 12:55 AM #5
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    square enix should have (and i was told they did) have us based servers i was told this by a gm in game i would like to know what happened to those servers dont get me wrong i know japan is in trouble but at the same time depending on how long it takes to fix it we may be out of service for a year or more and if the reactors do in fact melt down there will be a massive loss of life property and the area will become un inhabitble not to mention the servers where all of our info is stored will be destroyed and we would have no more ffxi so in conclusion to all the rescue and repair teams focus on gettime the reactors safe first our game can wait and once it back up and running backup servers would be a great idea
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  6. 03-18-2011 12:55 AM #6
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    uhhh, deja vu much?
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  7. 03-18-2011 12:58 AM #7
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    There ARE servers in California. BUT they are not for gameplay, they are servers for updates etc.... So they are not as big or capable of just throwing the gameplay data on there & power em up.

    I think people watch to many movies lol or seem to think that a server can fix in your pocket ^^
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  8. 03-18-2011 01:09 AM #8
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    put it this way... it took them roughly 12 hours just to rehome the PlayOnline Data recently. That's just the player signin, licensing, messages and such. Now, conswider there are 25 Game servers that house all your character information, as well as all the data for the game, and the front-end for the game itself. That's just two of the key pieces in the chain. It doesn't account for various other servers used to cover various tasks for supporting the service. Some of those support tasks were likely split up into diffrerent regional locations simply for efficiency sake of day to day operations.

    It's not going to be as simple as popping a tape in an e-mail server for an automatic scheduled backup that runs each night at 8pm.

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  9. 03-18-2011 01:27 AM #9
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    Here's something some fellow techies might appreciate. Found an article on how SE setup their in-house message system that goes into the layout and such--includes a nice layout of the system. What a beast:

    http://media.netapp.com/documents/square-enix.pdf

    I'd hate to see how the FFXI center is set up...then again, might be nice to put it in proper perspective.

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  10. 03-18-2011 01:33 AM #10
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    Ok now that is some creative work. Very smart people work for SE & they are some of the best designers in the world^^
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