New Jobs - Will you aby burn or no?

[Mayoyama]

Thought it would be interesting to ask whether everyone is planning to simply get30andabyburn the 2 new jobs when they come out or wil people try some old style xp parties (which actually yield decent xp due to previous updates)?

I personally might try non-aby xp and experience the new jobs while not much is known about them. Could also give rise to some other old jobs having xp party chances

Opinions?

[Arcon]

FoV to 10, GoV to 30, Aby to 99, as I'm sure it will be for the majority.

[Vivik]

FoV to 10, GoV to 30, Aby to 99, as I'm sure it will be for the majority.

^^^^^^^^^^

[Eri]

If i decide to lvl them.
I will not enter Abyssea until i can be useful for the group. I'd rather solo to 75 then being useless.
Period.

[Jingizu]

If i decide to lvl them.
I will not enter Abyssea until i can be useful for the group. I'd rather solo to 75 then being useless.
Period.

Ditto. I've done that personally, solo to 72-75 before entering abyssea with just about every job I currently have leveled. The exceptions being THF(solo til 46) and RDM(solo to 55). Neither of those jobs I felt important enough to "skill" or "learn" to play as, DNC was already completed and THF was for personal use, and for RDM...well, WHM and BLM were already capped in level and magics, enfeebling and enhancing not too hard to finish out for RDM at that point.

I do realize that the majority WILL indeed leech the new jobs up, and in the end be as useless as just about EVERY ninja in Void Watch that cries and runs away when the thief comes up behind them. Or as useless as the innumerable WHMs that can't push out a Cure 5 greater than 750, or the BLM at 99 that couldn't land a sleep on a goblin thug if their very internet existence depended on it. Leech away.

[Zerich]

Ditto. I've done that personally, solo to 72-75 before entering abyssea with just about every job I currently have leveled. The exceptions being THF(solo til 46) and RDM(solo to 55). Neither of those jobs I felt important enough to "skill" or "learn" to play as, DNC was already completed and THF was for personal use, and for RDM...well, WHM and BLM were already capped in level and magics, enfeebling and enhancing not too hard to finish out for RDM at that point.

I do realize that the majority WILL indeed leech the new jobs up, and in the end be as useless as just about EVERY ninja in Void Watch that cries and runs away when the thief comes up behind them. Or as useless as the innumerable WHMs that can't push out a Cure 5 greater than 750, or the BLM at 99 that couldn't land a sleep on a goblin thug if their very internet existence depended on it. Leech away.

omg, i forgot that you are the best player in the game.
/blow

[Arcon]

I do realize that the majority WILL indeed leech the new jobs up, and in the end be as useless as just about EVERY ninja in Void Watch that cries and runs away when the thief comes up behind them. Or as useless as the innumerable WHMs that can't push out a Cure 5 greater than 750, or the BLM at 99 that couldn't land a sleep on a goblin thug if their very internet existence depended on it. Leech away.

I didn't realize that beating Robber Crabs for half an eternity somehow gave you cure potency or enfeebling magic gear. They never did for me, anyway.

I'll rather play with people who got 99 quickly and spend their time gearing/skilling their character than people who think they know how to play because they've killed more trash mobs than anyone else.

[Eri]

I didn't realize that beating Robber Crabs for half an eternity somehow gave you cure potency or enfeebling magic gear. They never did for me, anyway.

It certainly doesn't give you that kind of Bonus, its giving you Skillups thu...
an Player Skill. Opening chest gives you Skillups now? YAY

I'll rather play with people who got 99 quickly and spend their time gearing/skilling their character than people who think they know how to play because they've killed more trash mobs than anyone else.

Lol they can have all the Gear in the world, they dont play nearly as good as someone that lvled the Job in a real pt.(Must not be true, some ppl just play bad XD)
Massmurdering DC Mobs is about it. (Funny thing is they dont get better)

I don't blame them thu. Exping solo teaches you .... soloing. No one Highlevel would considder using Levelsync to Skill up.(Given Level sync is a failing System considdering gear).
You either have friends that want to exp with you on a low Level or you don't.
Then again the exp from books is pretty nice, even that is better than a chest leech in my opinion.

But acutally what about killing mobs that can actually punch back?

[Arcon]

It certainly doesn't give you that kind of Bonus, its giving you Skillups thu...
an Player Skill. Opening chest gives you Skillups now? YAY

Opening chests gets you to 99 faster so you have more time to use on skilling up, so in a way, yes. I level to 99 in less than a day and then spend a few hours skilling (unless it turns out to be as annoying as summoning skill, but I guarantee you that won't skill any faster in a real EXP party either). You, on the other hand, waste weeks of playtime just to get to 99 a different way, and you still won't be capped and will have to skill seperately (or take breaks from leveling to skill up in between).

Lol they can have all the Gear in the world, they dont play nearly as good as someone that lvled the Job in a real pt.(Must not be true, some ppl just play bad XD)

It's definitely not true. Playing in a "real" party, as you so casually call it, teaches you nothing relevant to endgame at all. Good players will be good, regardless of they get to 99. Bad players will be bad, regardless of how they get to 99.

I've leveled plenty of jobs in slow EXP parties, my first being PLD. You know what those wasted months taught me? "Provoke on timer and WS when/if you have TP."

My question to you, do you consider that a relevant skill? And if so, why do you think it would take me months to learn it?

But acutally what about killing mobs that can actually punch back?

Why would you fight difficult mobs to EXP on? EXP mobs have always been chosen so they pose little threat to the party. You apparently don't think so. So let me ask you another question: if you think EXP mobs should be challenging to get real experience on, why wouldn't you leech to 99 and get real experience on endgame events in the same time? Why do you want to get that experience at lower levels instead of higher levels? Do you think your brain learns these things faster while your character is still low?

You seem to think that real experience is worth more than experience points for your character, and I agree. Yet you seem to think that they're related. Why? Your character level is just a number. And real experience you'll always get easier and better during real endgame events rather than on challenging EXP mobs, whatever those may be.

[Lordos]

Solo, it the only way 2 know how 2 play this job. and maybe if i have super mega ra change a normal exp pt.