Yes Timed Pop Notorious Monsters In New Expansion

[Rosina]

@Krashport
That doesn't answer me question.... Infact that reply has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked.

content is content... ppl gonna do it or not do it.
but what does any of that have to do with suff being on a 24hr+ timer...

honestly i'm starting to think you started this topic just to start a topic, you have no actual reason or a "why" you want it. you want it just to want it. That is far from a good reason. Just as much as not wanting it for sake of not wanting it isn't a good reason. Ypu and a few other who are for time based hnm (aka 24+ hr time pop) have yet to establish a good reason for your cause. All i read want "i want this, because i want this" While a few who are against timed pop mobs have sited good reasons for not seeing a return of them.

Here is my 2 cents... everyone loves a good boss battle. Thats why we play final fantasy games is it not? For good story and a good boss battle.
So why make said bosses be put on a once a day/week timer. That makes it hard ppl to see it.

[Krashport]

@Krashport
That doesn't answer me question.... Infact that reply has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked.

content is content... ppl gonna do it or not do it.
but what does any of that have to do with suff being on a 24hr+ timer...

honestly i'm starting to think you started this topic just to start a topic, you have no actual reason or a "why" you want it. you want it just to want it. That is far from a good reason. Just as much as not wanting it for sake of not wanting it isn't a good reason. Ypu and a few other who are for time based hnm (aka 24+ hr time pop) have yet to establish a good reason for your cause. All i read want "i want this, because i want this" While a few who are against timed pop mobs have sited good reasons for not seeing a return of them.

Here is my 2 cents... everyone loves a good boss battle. Thats why we play final fantasy games is it not? For good story and a good boss battle.
So why make said bosses be put on a once a day/week timer. That makes it hard ppl to see it.

Here is some homework; http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...rious_Monsters. When you're done with that I'm sure you can surf the internet to find more info on this, rather then always asking for a handout on info. ^^b

Note: The player invented the use and the nickname HNM not the company. So understanding your own "H" that you're using in HNM is half the battle.

[wish12oz]

5. These people make posts here, and then make fun of people's reactions to those posts over at www.bluegartrls.com in a thread entitled "The Official Forums: Nuked" in the "Media" section of the Final Fantasy 11 forums.

If anyone cares to refute these sad truths, be my guest.

Last time this topic came up on BG pretty much everyone was against the idea of allowing bots back into the game and allowing them to have dominance over which LS you want to join. So basically, BG is anti-24hour+ NMs. Dont believe me? well, maybe you should read BG yourself instead of just acting like you know about it.

To back up my claims I present to you this thread/poll on BG:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104...d-spawn-NM-HNM
The winner with almost 50% of the votes is "You can't be serious. All world spawns will be botted." Which shows just how much distaste the BG community has for bots and world spawns.

Note: The player invented the use and the nickname HNM not the company. So understanding your own "H" that you're using in HNM is half the battle.

Back in the day we called them Hyper Notorious Monsters, I dunno why that lame webpage says High.

P.S. I kinda feel like I should gouge my eyes out for agreeing with Rosina, I hate all of you.

[Tunasushi]

Last time this topic came up on BG pretty much everyone was against the idea of allowing bots back into the game and allowing them to have dominance over which LS you want to join. So basically, BG is anti-24hour+ NMs. Dont believe me? well, maybe you should read BG yourself instead of just acting like you know about it.

To back up my claims I present to you this thread/poll on BG:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104...d-spawn-NM-HNM
The winner with almost 50% of the votes is "You can't be serious. All world spawns will be botted." Which shows just how much distaste the BG community has for bots and world spawns.



Back in the day we called them Hyper Notorious Monsters, I dunno why that lame webpage says High.

P.S. I kinda feel like I should gouge my eyes out for agreeing with Rosina, I hate all of you.

Why would you link to that thread?

If anything, it shows there IS as desire for them.

Theres no question a larger percentage of people didnt enjoy hnms, but you're delusional if you don't notice the numbers and percentages of people who do.

90% OF PEOPLE, don't/didn't want more voidwatch either. Saying "xxx amount of people don't want this" is not a good enough reason to warrant not putting something reasonable in a game, if there is are people who enjoy it. Reward is a non-issue, as said.

That was not a good example at all to use. All that thread shows is 1 in 4 people do want new world nms/HNMs..

[Rosina]

Why would you link to that thread?

If anything, it shows there IS as desire for them.

Theres no question a larger percentage of people didnt enjoy hnms, but you're delusional if you don't notice the numbers and percentages of people who do.

90% OF PEOPLE, don't/didn't want more voidwatch either. Saying "xxx amount of people don't want this" is not a good enough reason to warrant not putting something reasonable in a game, if there is are people who enjoy it. Reward is a non-issue, as said.

That was not a good example at all to use. All that thread shows is 1 in 4 people do want new world nms/HNMs..

Yes that is due to fighting large/ hard creatures is fun. But who is to say they want them on the 24 hour timer? You can have the content with out the timer... you do realise this right?

[Tunasushi]

Yes that is due to fighting large/ hard creatures is fun. But who is to say they want them on the 24 hour timer? You can have the content with out the timer... you do realise this right?

Did you read the thread title? Did you read the poll options?

Can't help but assume no, because the thread isa clearly titled world monsters.

I think the majority of people who don't want world monsters are afraid of being excluded, AND HONESTLY, I HAVE A GREAT DISDAIN FOR WHINERS or players who think they are entitled.

I'm really happy for the top shells and groups that conquer legion, neo einherjar odin, and neo nyzul. Call me elitest if you want, but the only thing worst than a dude who will do whatever it takes to beat someone, not included to scamming and cheating, is a whining casual who wants things dumbed down for his or her playtime/capabilities.

I don't think some of you get it. The only thing missing from 99 cap from 75 cap when endgame is concerned is competition. The drops are still incresdbily rare, and you still need a larger group to defeat the most difficult content. You are already excluded if you're a whiner and too casual.

I can't stress the facts enough that abyssea did not revive ffxi, just as many quit during it, as they did come back, it evened out. The only thing that improved was the morales of the player base. When cheating and gil was obselete, which isn't the case now that we are recapped. Abyssea was never endgame, it was filler content.

Abyssea reward-ratio content will never be endgame, get over it. HNMs may never return but the games sense of social climbing in stronger/larger groups is and will be primarily what ffxi endgame is about.

In case you haven'tnoticed, SE doesn't devolope content based on what "people DON'T want" they give what people "Do what" IF ANYTHING. They don't care what you DON'T want, especially when their are others who do want it.

Enjoy the content you do like, and stop complaining about content that doesn't effect you: the content you cannot do.

In case you all missed the memo, the new expansion is geared towards bringing back OLD PLAYERS and retaining them. It's not going to be something that geared towards bringing in new players or fleshing out content you can finish in a week.

You're delusional if you think SE is going to add massive zones and not fill them with notorious monsters that spawn in the real game environment.

I love competition, please bring back long spawn world hnms, and support stronger groups of players who are dedicated to the game and support it without the need for filler content.

[Camiie]

I think the majority of people who don't want world monsters are afraid of being excluded, AND HONESTLY, I HAVE A GREAT DISDAIN FOR WHINERS or players who think they are entitled.

I'm really happy for the top shells and groups that conquer legion, neo einherjar odin, and neo nyzul. Call me elitest if you want, but the only thing worst than a dude who will do whatever it takes to beat someone, not included to scamming and cheating, is a whining casual who wants things dumbed down for his or her playtime/capabilities.

Don't you think the pro-HNM crowd are guilty of the same line of thinking? They're whining that their preferred style of play is no longer supported. They want endgame to be dumbed down to their level of play where the only real challenge is who has the best ping time, bot program and/or trigger finger. Ultimately that was the only real challenge in the world of HNM unless the other groups decided to try to MPK.

I don't think some of you get it. The only thing missing from 99 cap from 75 cap when endgame is concerned is competition. The drops are still incredibly rare, and you still need a larger group to defeat the most difficult content.

If competition is what's most important to you then you should be all over Ballista, Brenner, and the new Play-As-Monster system. If it's really about competition then these events would be overflowing with you guys, but they're not are they? Because these things are REAL competition that you can't luck or bot your way through, and there's nothing shiny at the end that makes you feel special.

You are already excluded if you're a whiner and too casual.

I seem to recall there were PLENTY of whiners in the world of HNM, so they really weren't ever excluded. If there were no whiners there would have been no drama, and many of you would never have gotten your jollies from the HNM scene.

I love competition, please bring back long spawn world hnms, and support stronger groups of players who are dedicated to the game and support it without the need for filler content.

Calling HNM competition is like George Jetson calling his 3 hours a day of pushing one button a job.