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    Player Keyln's Avatar
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    The key thing here is that the devs need to increases not only the amount of supply, but the access of the supply. The biggest problem right now is that Salvage still requires a minimum of three people to enter, so one can not simply walk into Salvage solo and farm Alexandrite. The one thing that the devs can do to make earning a Mythic much easier is to increase the access to the supply of Alexandrite by making Assaults and Salvage entry allowable with solo party members.
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    I think adding solo content for alexandrite would be better than simply relying on a revival of Salvage for more circulation. Circulation is great, but it needs to be most easily obtainable so the price will drop.
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    Wait, wait, wait. Complaints that a weapon name "Mythic" is to hard to get. Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionx View Post
    Circulation is great, but it needs to be most easily obtainable so the price will drop.
    Only if the price will drop, people won't do it anymore. It needs to be comparable to Dynamis in terms of making money for people to actually do it. If the price drops, that is no longer the case and people won't do it to sell anymore, but only to keep. Hence, it will hurt the amount of Alex in circulation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackastheripper View Post
    Wait, wait, wait. Complaints that a weapon name "Mythic" is to hard to get. Really?
    No wonder they call you Jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Only if the price will drop, people won't do it anymore. It needs to be comparable to Dynamis in terms of making money for people to actually do it. If the price drops, that is no longer the case and people won't do it to sell anymore, but only to keep. Hence, it will hurt the amount of Alex in circulation.
    The price isn't going to change much, I shouldn't think... price drops = more people willing to buy them instead of just soloing their own = price rise = more people doing salvage to sell alex = price drop etc. etc. etc. eventually it'll find a niche price and stay there.

    Edit: not to mention, people might actually want to do salvage for new gear^^
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    The price isn't going to change much, I shouldn't think... price drops = more people willing to buy them instead of just soloing their own = price rise = more people doing salvage to sell alex = price drop etc. etc. etc. eventually it'll find a niche price and stay there.
    This would hold somewhat true if there was a constant demand for it. But there's not enough people even trying to build a mythic, and a majority of the ones who do are not willing to pay anything near the amount required to make the event profitable for people farming to sell. Reducing the requirements would actually achieve that. It would, in fact, motivate even more people to actually build them, because even if the Alex price stays the same the total price would still go down. This solution won't help, because if the Alex price drops, people won't farm them anymore and supply will stall. But if the price goes up again, more people will stop building their mythics, because currently they cost up to 600M, and almost no one is willing to pay that price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    if the Alex price drops, people won't farm them anymore and supply will stall. But if the price goes up again, more people will stop building their mythics, because currently they cost up to 600M, and almost no one is willing to pay that price.
    If you can 2-box SSR, your total take will be comparable to a Dynamis run. The issue is of course, now you need 2 characters to play and a 3rd to help get you in. I think this is the largest obstacle to getting people to farm Salvage for gil. And if you have to split the alex it immediately loses its appeal.

    Another issue is that only one of the zones is consistently profitable (SSR) and everybody would want to farm it. So while people have suggested removing the 3 person requirement to enter, there would then be competition for that single zone. I've read that you can only have 3 Salvage/Nyzul instances at a given time, which may or may not be accurate.
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    Being able to enter Salvage and Assault solo would be a good start. At least that way those working on Mythics wouldn't have to rely on 2 others to be available.
    The main reason the supply of Alex was so good a few years ago was because everyone wanted the gear from Salvage. If the devs can recreate this, then there is a good chance that a decent amount of Alex will enter the market again.
    If the only change is an increase in supply of Alex available from Salvage, then yeah, it probably won't get much cheaper.
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    You guys are beating a dead horse.

    On that note; I wonder if the new expansion will introduce a new version of "Legendary weapon" that Rune Fencer and Geomancer can also use...
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    Im sure a new breed of weapons will arise with the expansion RNF doesnt look like any normal sword, and bells aren't really a weapon class we can pick as well, besides those event ones, so with any luck hopefully waiting for this expansion to come will change the game a bit, or will turn out to be nothing special and insanely hard to obtain anything new or alone like previous expansions have shown us thru history.

    Before Expansion: "Maybe this expansion will change everything!" . . . After Expansion hits: "OMG these zones are so COOL and everything is so AWESOME!" Hours later when all your friends log off and everyone you know: "Ummmm so....lets see if I can kill this by myself......anyone online? I need a raise..." (Back then people cared about getting K.O'd losing exp stunk)

    Ah what the hell, I hope this expansion changes everything!
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