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    In all fairness THF does make a very good tank inside Abyssea and in some cases outside of it as well. Granted that isn't its definition... but hey, what can you do? I just look at it as more ways to play a job. PLD unfortunately got the short end of the stick. A tank with little means of maintaining enmity on its own.

    They gave provoke to WAR likely so that low level groups could have a tank since PLD is an advanced job. What they didn't think of was getting PLD an ability to do the same. They should really think about adding one or at least augmenting the existing abilities.
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    Player Smeggles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyinghippress View Post
    In all fairness THF does make a very good tank inside Abyssea and in some cases outside of it as well.
    I tank on my THF more than anything simply because its BETTER at it.


    The problem with PLD's is not JA's or spells or anything they do. EVERYTHING wrong with tanking is the hate cap. Until the PLD has a way to reliably go above capped threat DD's then it won't be fixed.

    The threat cap is what is killing "tanking"
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    Last edited by Smeggles; 08-10-2012 at 07:13 AM. Reason: misread quoted part.

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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    SE's response to PLD struggling with the hate cap = SCH's new 2 hour ability.

    Now they just need to make a series of events where if you're going to take a SCH to 2 hour, it's not better to leave the PLD out, use more DDs and Embrava instead lol.
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    Player Teraniku's Avatar
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    If they are unwilling to raise the cap, then PLD needs a "Lock" ability that causes the mob to attack only them for 30 sec. Give the ability 3-5 min recast, which can be lowered with merits. It won't fix the hate cap, but it would make PLD useful.
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    Something like Champion 30 second recast ability that does a reverse provoke on the mob every 30 seconds.

    Instead of adding hate to himself this ability reduces the hate of others in the targets hate pool. This ability would never add much hate to the tank it would just make the enemy think less of others on it's hate list. If two or more tanks use on an enemy it it'll reduce the hate on the first player but also further reduce the hate of others in it's hate pool.

    This ability isn't about adding hate it's about reducing it.

    Runic Knight might have a similar aura effect that rapidly lowers the enmity of others in his/her range.

    Mark my words the Runic Knight will be getting this ability under a different name.
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