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    Well they did counter 1 part of Embrava it would seem. If HP boosts are really that high then Embrava's regen power will not be nearly as helpful for recovery. Haste & Regain however... no matter what I can say for certain SCH will be used in this event for Embrava but I agree I hope its not the ONLY way, with that small of time I worry however.
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    Sounds fun, almost like mini/rapid abyssea progression. I do think what the team has done with VW and now this post-level99 cap is a good way to continue that sense of progression/achievement.

    After receiving preipts and temp items in VW, and going back and doing things like Voidwrought, they seem so easy now, where when it was very new, I recall struggling quite a bit. Looking forward to trying it before I get to critical XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Step 1:Gather your Nyzul Isle static.
    Step 2:Have the one of your two SCHs with less enhancing magic change to a DD.
    Step 3o this event.
    Step 4:Win.
    Step 5:Wait a day.
    Step 6:Repeat "Step 1" unless all notable good gear has been obtained.
    To the extent that this is like Neo-Nyzul, I am pretty sure a party of naked PUPs could handle one (1) floor of Neo-Nyzul in 15 minutes.

    Deep breaths, guys.

    EDIT: It's a fifteen-minute event with no time extensions, no farming opportunities a la Salvage or Dynamis (from the look of it) and no real incentive for fast completion other than fast completion itself. So your NNI static finishes a wing in 7 minutes as opposed to the 13 it would take a group of mediocre players on their mains; who cares? Were those six precious minutes worth the time it took to get the band together in the first place?

    People will shout for this event. Like voidwatch, there's no great incentive NOT to shout, so convenience trumps all, even for the level 99 Ukon WAR who knows he's just going to be carrying literally anyone he doesn't already know. I know you all think this is gonna be All Static Everything, but that's how we all thought the Random Daily Heroic was going to be in WoW.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 07-18-2012 at 05:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    To the extent that this is like Neo-Nyzul, I am pretty sure a party of naked PUPs could handle one (1) floor of Neo-Nyzul in 15 minutes.

    Deep breaths, guys.
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    Issue is, They said they've calculated it to where you should be able to clear 1 Dungeon per run in 15 minutes, This alludes to the possibility of being able to clear multiple dungeons, going as far as your time allows.

    meaning, People will go for multiple dungeons, best possible set ups, etc.

    If its only 1 Room > Boss per run period, Might be more lenient... I'm just going to remain skeptical is all, The even looks like its going to be really fun, so, I don't mind that, I just hope I'm not stuck on BRD or some job i dislike lol
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    IF IT IS INDEED that way, then fine, statics gonna static, etc.

    All I'm saying is this is not going to be anywhere near intense enough for John Q. AF3+1 to feel left out, and in progressive farming content like this where you get one shot a day to make progress towards a larger goal (closest in FFXI right now is Dynamis but this looks further along the spectrum than that), getting your clear for the day out of the way so you don't lose it is WAY more important than getting it with an optimal group.

    EDIT: Statics come in to play for getting boss kills with fewer saved buffs, and thus going for loot runs more often.

    MOAR EDIT: on reflection, it's actually better to NOT static unless you're going for a boss run, because that way everyone in your group can get different buffs and stack them for the main event. Player A does HP dungeons, player B does Regain dungeons, player C does Refresh, etc., for the first three days with PuGs, and on day four you all get together for a boss run with six different level 3 buffs. If you'd staticed the whole time, day four would see you all with one level 3 buff or 3 level 1 buffs.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 07-18-2012 at 06:10 AM.
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    Is it possible for the devs to create an event that doesn't require some sort of atma, atmacite, or stat boosts? Even legion has fanatic's powders (though people just use PD anyway). All these events with stat boosts make it seem like your character is worthless.

    You have X hp? Well now it doesn't matter because you can boost it by 1000. You have X STR? No worries you can boost it by 50. You have X-hit build? Throw that out, you get regain now. You have -pdt? Well cool, but you're going to be taking 0 damage from physical attacks anyway.
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    This is actually a lot different, in that there is an incentive to not use the stat buffs if you don't have to.
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    Thanks Camate all great info, let's just hope the rewards are worth the effort and please do not forget there are 20 jobs in the game and not all 20 are MELEE DD only !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helel View Post
    Is it possible for the devs to create an event that doesn't require some sort of atma, atmacite, or stat boosts? Even legion has fanatic's powders (though people just use PD anyway). All these events with stat boosts make it seem like your character is worthless.

    You have X hp? Well now it doesn't matter because you can boost it by 1000. You have X STR? No worries you can boost it by 50. You have X-hit build? Throw that out, you get regain now. You have -pdt? Well cool, but you're going to be taking 0 damage from physical attacks anyway.
    Admittedly it is sad and true. Though it is yet another thing that happens because of Embrava/PD in general. To much power in these spells so they need to make things harder to counter them. To counter them they must make NMs and enemies so hard they need special items to be able to stand a chance against, and so they make items and super buffs common. Said super buffs and items make normal gear massively less important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    .
    Issue is, They said they've calculated it to where you should be able to clear 1 Dungeon per run in 15 minutes, This alludes to the possibility of being able to clear multiple dungeons, going as far as your time allows.

    meaning, People will go for multiple dungeons, best possible set ups, etc.

    If its only 1 Room > Boss per run period, Might be more lenient... I'm just going to remain skeptical is all, The even looks like its going to be really fun, so, I don't mind that, I just hope I'm not stuck on BRD or some job i dislike lol
    They also said there was a mega boss at the end. Knowing SE that is where the good loot will be and seeing their previous incarnations, then it'll hit for 1000+ and use 1.5K+ aoe's. Doom and Charma for everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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