[Dev] PS2 User Poll

[Cljader1]

I simply explained your options. Stay on PS2, get less content. Buy new console, get more content. These seem to be your primary options apart from leaving this game.

I'm aware of the options, but there should be more options and that's the crux of the argument here, and the central issue among ps2 users

[RAIST]

I don't see why they wouldn't explore this unless they plan on ending the game soon which I doubt. They added xbox 360 too ffxi, ffxiv will be on ps3 so I don't know why SE wont explore making a ffxi version playable for ps3. They had 10 years to make a transition to ps3. Furthermore, there still space on the HDD and having all aspects of the game available to ps2 user except for the new expansion is a bit silly

Guessing you don't have muuch understanding of how the process works. Microsoft provides the tools for converting DirectX compliant products to the XB360. Sony doesn't provide the robust tools the Microsoft does. Basically, a lot of the code would have to actually be written for the PS3, where a lot of it is automated for XB360. Thus, it requires minimal efffort to port the more compliant PC portions to the XB360--PS3 is more likely to require a rewrite of the actual runtimes.

Case in point, you referenced FF14. Roughly 6 months after testing the PC environment, they moved on to converting/testing PS3--only to find it wouldn't run on the PS3 as it was, and had to go back and GUT IT TO MAKE IT RUN. You can't just port from PC release to PS3--because the tools Sony provides are rubbish in comparison.

[Demon6324236]

We all know you'll get left behind in the game if one does not have access to new expansion areas, especially this one when they are implementing a new nation and new continent. Maybe its true ffxi has a skeleton crew, I seen all the ps2 vs cpu debates back then but I chose not to post because I saw it as a stupid argument/debate. Maybe I shouldve posted in those forums seeing that SE visits regularly now. But SE needs to understand that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them.

Well I will ask you then why should SE continue to support a console or a group if there are small amount of people who play on that console?

[RAIST]

No, Im going to keep playing that card because its a fact. Buying a new platform to play a 10 year old game is absurd. How do you know my computer can handle ffxi, already told you it cant, so not only are you a idiot but your psychic one too.

Again...specs on this system in question would be nice to see. I have spare parts that have been collecting dust for about 8 years I could use to throw a system together that is capable of running FFXI. The PC I built for my 14 year old daughter when she was in 1st grade can run it ffs--and that was built from scraps after upgrading another system. Sure, it only has a 128MB vid card in it, and an ISA Soundblaster card--but it can run FFXI.

[RAIST]

This is possible, but we have no word on it. We also don't know how things are between Sony on the idea. Sony may see getting FFXIV as being a reason they do not need another FF MMO. Xbox has FFXI however and they are not getting FFXIV, so thats where FF players on Xbox are getting their MMO. It also could be they don't want to spend the time and money with what seems to be a currently small team so that they can add a new console. There are alternatives to playing on PS2, you are not forced to move. You are also not forced to quit, the expansion may not be coming to PS2 but that doesn't mean you cant play the game. My gf went a very long time without abyssea, got 2 jobs to 95 without it, and in the end she lived, you can as well, may not be as fun and you will feel left out but you do have choices to change that if you want and have the money.

lol.. it took almost a year for me to even start TAU content...it was Manaburns that finally lured me out there for my BLM, then besieged for the skillups on it afterwards. Just because it's out there, doesn't mean you HAVE to participate.

[RAIST]

We all know you'll get left behind in the game if one does not have access to new expansion areas, especially this one when they are implementing a new nation and new continent. Maybe its true ffxi has a skeleton crew, I seen all the ps2 vs cpu debates back then but I chose not to post because I saw it as a stupid argument/debate. Maybe I shouldve posted in those forums seeing that SE visits regularly now. But SE needs to understand that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them.

I'm curious....just how does one get left behind if they don't visit the new continent?

Level to 99 in pre-Abyssea areas....check
Aquire Powerful abyssea gear solo at 99....check.
Complete Empyrean weapons either solo or with LS/FriendsList contacts....check.
CoP content level cap restrictions lifted....WotG/TAU (most all older content) soloable/low-man content now....check.

Sooooo...all you are denied without having access to the new zone, is the new zone and items that can only be obtained by completing content in that new zone (if it can be bought/traded, it can be acquired without completing said content).

So again.....just how does one get "left behind"?

[Zerich]

We all know you'll get left behind in the game if one does not have access to new expansion areas, especially this one when they are implementing a new nation and new continent. Maybe its true ffxi has a skeleton crew, I seen all the ps2 vs cpu debates back then but I chose not to post because I saw it as a stupid argument/debate. Maybe I shouldve posted in those forums seeing that SE visits regularly now. But SE needs to understand that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them.

the polls they took about a year ago most likely beg to differ.

[Miloki]

I play on PC x2 and though the PS3 with backward compatibility. And it looks horrible on PS3..even with a fancy TV and quality hookup cables. *IF* if looked better on PS3 i would be interested..but without a complete overhaul it won't...so drop PS2 support imo...technology passed that platform by.

[Cljader1]

Guessing you don't have muuch understanding of how the process works. Microsoft provides the tools for converting DirectX compliant products to the XB360. Sony doesn't provide the robust tools the Microsoft does. Basically, a lot of the code would have to actually be written for the PS3, where a lot of it is automated for XB360. Thus, it requires minimal efffort to port the more compliant PC portions to the XB360--PS3 is more likely to require a rewrite of the actual runtimes.

Case in point, you referenced FF14. Roughly 6 months after testing the PC environment, they moved on to converting/testing PS3--only to find it wouldn't run on the PS3 as it was, and had to go back and GUT IT TO MAKE IT RUN. You can't just port from PC release to PS3--because the tools Sony provides are rubbish in comparison.

Where's your proof to back any of these claims up??

[Cljader1]

Again...specs on this system in question would be nice to see. I have spare parts that have been collecting dust for about 8 years I could use to throw a system together that is capable of running FFXI. The PC I built for my 14 year old daughter when she was in 1st grade can run it ffs--and that was built from scraps after upgrading another system. Sure, it only has a 128MB vid card in it, and an ISA Soundblaster card--but it can run FFXI.

The average person doesn't build a computer, and the average person doesn't build a computer out of left over spare. My comps are for browsing only and does not have the processing power for MMO's such as ffxi or ffxiv. Furthermore I bought ps2 for ffxi, and after buying the system for this game there telling me a need a new platform for it, its absurb