[Dev] PS2 User Poll

[RAIST]

Don't think you quite caught the jist of what he was saying. Just because they have a JP PS2 release, doesn't mean they instantly have access to a NA release to sell.

Contracts have already been consigned to market the current planned production, all of that would have to be altered (additional cost).

New contracts would have to be consigned with Sony to license NA product, then a minimum order of pressing would have to be contracted (again....additional costs.) Just because they have an order for JP PS2 DVD's doesn't mean they can use that same contract for NA and avoid initial costs--that is considered new product line, with all the same setup costs incurred for a NEW line because they would not have contracted under an international plan to produce multi regions under the same contract. One way or the other, a new contract has to be entered into, whether that is a new contract to cover both regions under one or two seperate contracts. Regardless, it would be two seperate pressings that would have to be setup, effectively doubling the cost more or less.

All of this has to add up and placed against the potential revenue that could be earned. It appears the bean counters at SE have weighed and measured a NA PS2 release, and come up wanting...thus, it's currently not in the cards.

[Zeargi]

Um... the main points behind my post were that:

1) FFXI is most certainly not the most profitable MMO ever.
2) Teaching you how to bypass the poll system in a non-confrontational way.

I believe that does a lot for this thread since, as you said yourself, 4-5 out of the 7 pages were nothing but arguments and people provoking you to reply.

My second post was inferring that you should follow your own words. "Just because a post is there doesn't mean you have to reply to it," is sound advice, but you should certainly follow it yourself. Had you not responded to the negative comments in the very beginning you may have averted the 4-5 pages of arguments and flaming.

I should make it clear that I'm not flaming you or trolling your thread by any means but simply was giving you advice.

1.) I'll correct my statement: It's the Most Profitable Final Fantasy title ever, but it's also got 10 years worth of service. A MMO is the easiest way to gain money, and it's not by any means saying that SE is hemorrhagic when it comes to finances.
2.)Raist, Pg1 already said AND did what you were suggesting, that also didn't work.
3.) True, my advice is pretty spot on, but there's a difference in a reply for the sake of being argumentative and disrespectful and replying for conversation purpose. You and I are having a conversation at this point in time, we're being civil. People are going to try and "Flame" me regardless of what I do, but in the end I personal don't care because they don't pay my bills, they don't control my job, the don't dictate my relationship with God, and don't have any effect on my personal well being other than the occasional headache. I'm an entertain by occupation, I've got to dance for complete strangers and pretend that I'm happy while I soubresaut my tired sweat rear down the street. I get judged on a daily basis, even by my own peers so at this point in life I'm kind of used to it. I thank you for trying to help, but like I said at this in the thread's life it's too late. It's best to <Flee> and take the words of Admiral Ackbar to heart: "It's a Trap!"

[Cooler]

Yes,please.

[deces]

Please be fair to all users of the community, by fully supporting the system that FFXI was designed around and made this game what it is, by releasing Seekers of Adoulin for PS2 & PS3, by disk or download.

[RAIST]

It's beginning to sound more and more like people just aren't getting it. SE appears to have more or less written off the PS2 for NA region because (in the grander scheme of things), the market has left it behind as a desired platform.

Bear in mind, I'm not saying there aren't NA players that prefer it on the PS2, but as a segment of the total market, there just aren't enough people still using the PS2 here to warrant pressing new disks for it. Otherwise, you would still be seeing it offered in physical media for a reasonable price and supply. I fear the same thing may be happenning to the XB360 platform soon as well...it's getting harder and harder for people to find new discs for a reasonable price for that console. As SONY has said repeatedly, they will continue to produce PS2's for the markets where it can be done feasibly for a profit. SE appears to be following a similar approach to FFXI on the PS2. Supply and demand...Economics 101.

[Cljader1]

SE need to add the expansion too ps2, that's the platform I play on

[FrankReynolds]

I Have like 10 broken / scratched copies for 360 that you guys can have. I also have both the original PS2 and PC versions in JP from 2003 ish. I'm sure there are several others with stacks of unused codes like me. I have since purchased the DL version online for $19.99 and never had to replace a disc since. The savings on new discs alone could cover the price of a new PC over several years, unless you are super anal about taking care of your discs and / or don't allow anyone else to use your system.

Long story short: Go get it on PC and prosper.

[Demon6324236]

Please be fair to all users of the community, by fully supporting the system that FFXI was designed around and made this game what it is, by releasing Seekers of Adoulin for PS2 & PS3, by disk or download.

Just because a game was made for it and made it what it is, does not mean they will continue on that console.

Look at games like Monday Night Combat, the game was out on Xbox 1st, sold well. A little while after they put it on the PC, on steam, the game was a hit there as well, and has been compared to Team Fortress 2. But as soon as the game went to the PC, the Xbox players started to be forgotten, and in time, completely abandoned. I was a player of this game for the Xbox, and never play shooters on the PC, there is now a new game of Monday Night Combat, essentially MNC2, but there is no Xbox version, the Xbox version of the original has been without updates for some time, and it was left for dead.

What I mean is, just because SE built it on PS2, and it came out on PS2, does not mean PS2 will always be involved. It has been 10 years since the game came out, please understand this. The time for the console is ending, and ended long ago honestly. The next gen of systems is expected in the next 2 years and your asking them to still support a 12 year old console that has no ability to be updated or upgraded. PS2 has lived a long time, and I'm surprised this long seeing as PS2 games have been outdated for 2~3 years now, but its time seems to be over.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

SE need to add the expansion too ps2, that's the platform I play on

Get a JP PS2 and copy.

[Reiterpallasch]

People are still QQing over the game not being on PS2 for NA/EU? A PC that will run the game can be made for less than the expansion itself will likely cost ffs.