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    Player seya's Avatar
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    Trust me i m pretty sure if Se put not only the new expansion but the whole game on PSN a lot people would buy it mostly because lot people that had a new ps3 that cant read ps2 games wanted the game on ps3 , before there was no options but now Psn is putting ps2 games for download is just common sense u would not make money only on the expansion but the whole game itself and possible bring couple new players

    PS i m done with this discussion , my 2 accounts will be cancelled if i dont get the exp on the system i want to play and probally lot other will too
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    Quote Originally Posted by seya View Post
    Trust me i m pretty sure if Se put not only the new expansion but the whole game on PSN a lot people would buy it mostly because lot people that had a new ps3 that cant read ps2 games wanted the game on ps3 , before there was no options but now Psn is putting ps2 games for download is just common sense u would not make money only on the expansion but the whole game itself and possible bring couple new players
    And I guarantee you not enough to warrant the cost of not just the original game, but the new expansion for placement on the PSN.

    There is a reason the game hasn't been added to XBOX Live Marketplace, which is the same reason as for the PSN.

    PS. Goodbye then, oh and don't kid yourself.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Hatcher; 06-29-2012 at 11:25 AM.

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    There is a direct path for migrating from Windows to XB360, as they share a lot of similarities in the background processes (especially if it's a fully compliant DX game). Microsoft even provides the tools to do the bulk of the work for the developers when they want to port to XB360. The same cannot be said for the PS2 to PS3--it would require a LOT more work to port it from the far more proprietary PS2 to an even more isolated proprietary PS3. They have already done the analysis and put that forth a loooong time ago. It simply was not a justifiable expense to make a new emulator for PS3 or do a rewrite from ground up--it would be akin to making a new game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    There is a direct path for migrating from Windows to XB360, as they share a lot of similarities in the background processes (especially if it's a fully compliant DX game). Microsoft even provides the tools to do the bulk of the work for the developers when they want to port to XB360. The same cannot be said for the PS2 to PS3--it would require a LOT more work to port it from the far more proprietary PS2 to an even more isolated proprietary PS3. They have already done the analysis and put that forth a loooong time ago. It simply was not a justifiable expense to make a new emulator for PS3 or do a rewrite from ground up--it would be akin to making a new game.
    And yet they have no trouble porting over old games like GoW and Tomb Raider, and hell there making FFX in HD.. Its not that they cant they just won't because of laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joslyn View Post
    And yet they have no trouble porting over old games like GoW and Tomb Raider, and hell there making FFX in HD.. Its not that they cant they just won't because of laziness.
    Don't mistake a business decision based on cost : profit for laziness. Just because you want something, doesn't mean it's a profitable/good idea to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Don't mistake a business decision based on cost : profit for laziness. Just because you want something, doesn't mean it's a profitable/good idea to do.
    Ok then if this game was not profitable then why is it still going after 10 years when almost all other MMO's have died off after 3-4 years(and im not talking about WoW since that has a cult like following). Look yes its about profit but some games don't need to be rereleased to let those that played it yesteryear play it again, If that were the case I want Valve to re-release HAlf Life with the HL2 engine but they wont even though it would sell faster then most other fps's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    And I guarantee you not enough to warrant the cost of not just the original game, but the new expansion for placement on the PSN.

    There is a reason the game hasn't been added to XBOX Live Marketplace, which is the same reason as for the PSN.

    PS. Goodbye then, oh and don't kid yourself.
    You have no idea the exact amount of people who play on consoles or otherwise, because SE has never released this information. If you think they have, prove it and post a link. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true. Don't tell me to look for it myself, if you're making an argument the onus is on you to back it up.
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    Last edited by Aldersyde; 06-29-2012 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joslyn View Post
    Ok then if this game was not profitable then why is it still going after 10 years [..]
    He didn't say FFXI wasn't profitable, he said making a PS3 port wouldn't be. Porting games like MGS to PS3 is good profit, because almost every MGS fan will buy it. But only very few FFXI players would buy a PS3 port, namely only a subset of the already small NA PS3 playerbase. And considering that if they don't make a PS3 port, many PS2 people would still be playing on different platforms, it's even less than that.
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    I can always dream of this game getting the 2.0 treatment. I think if they remarketed FFXI now with an engine overhaul and versions available on current generation consoles it would be quite successful compared the original PS2 release. People back then were put off by the HDD's price tag, plus how difficult and slow the gameplay was. I enjoyed the game but it was next to impossible to make any progress solo.
    I suppose the PS3 release of FFXIV would be a good measure of how an FFXI upgrade would fair.
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    Well if a certain company didn't region lock the PS2 / PS3 to begin with, this wouldn't be an issue. Since they could put all versions on the same DVD's and you could import them if you wished to have the expansion. Blame Sony, not SE.
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