Abyssea should have cap entry or rules

[seallux]

okay hi everyone this is like my second time posting this (first time gotten bit of error so didn't go through my forum speech maybe bit sloppy) this will be my logical rant about how has abyssea has ruined and the game and how are we going to go about fixing this problem by adding a simple clean adjustment. nothing to crazy i mean a simple adjustment that can save this final fantasy XI community.

first of all i'll explain all 3 bad parts of abyssea that has caused the 3 key points that ruined this game and its moral and then i'll add 3 good points that can be done to fix this problem.

1. Shout Party or "Leeching" has now been the norm. of todays world and normally you would have to play your job properly in order to get invited to a party or have the right qualities to be part of a group for experience points. Because of Leeching (which means dropping what ever job you have 30 and above into a random shout party or joining a leech party. until your job has reached 99) on 1 side its a good thing you don't have to waste time grinding till your at your max job level. but in the other hands its really bad thing because you've gotten your job completed without lifting a finger or taking the time to learn your job, and it will effect the people you team up with especially people that are part of a linkshell event.

2. Abyssea and shout groups have also made it quite easy to obtain Empyrean armor or weapons by simply shouting for one.On one side its good thing it shortens the time to getting the gear + weapons but other hand it makes people incredibly spoiled and selfish to making them think they should obtain all empyrean type gears just because how easy it was to getting the gear and getting lv 99s
(making it incredibly hard Ls to exist with people who don't want to stay long term. when they can do it themselfs by simply shouting)

3.Abyssea helping boost bad moral in servers.because the game is so easy to get simple objective done solo players have tendency to act on solo mentality basis and or act like a complete ass on daily basis to people who simply asked for help or a simple question, without thinking about the consequences of they'r actions. (this is due to the fact that they don't care about making enemies as long as get what they want and the game stays easy. they can always shout for members to help them get what ever item they need without fearing of ls kicking them out or a bad rep. hurting them.)

Now the good things we can do to fix this.
1. fix problem 1. by setting a Lv restriction or getting rid of the experience points gained through alliance partys.

2. to fix this problem make the monsters that drop the so-called gears and empyrean weapons a bit harder and challenging so it would take a skilled group to get your seals ,+2s and empyrean weapon items. so people can appreciate the time you put into getting your gears and helping making people to stay to 1-3 jobs most. (this also gives reason to give an link shell to exist like Dynamis)

3. by fixing problem 1 and 2 you can simply solve this by having more new content and making it bit harder than normal, and adding more areas for experience party can exist. That way people can fear about getting kicked out of linkshells or about getting bad reps because how bad they mistreat others.


well that is my take on how to fix abyssea and its problem . please thumbs up if you like this idea or post your ideas too

[Jackstin]

I actually love Abyssea. I don't think getting jobs relatively good should be this intimidating climb. If you get +1 armour then you're suddenly able to take on many more challenges in the game, especially old content that would otherwise be ignored. And there are hundreds of players who have learned their job amazingly from abyssea. One of the best WHM I've ever played with is an Abyssea newbie, and the reason is that to get from say +1 gear to being able to take on Rani and Raja as part of a team still required work. It's awesomely balanced and its the reason why Abyssea is still popular for things other than levellng today.

Having said that, Abyssea has taken a lot of people away from the main world. On Asura I still see loads of people doing other content, but Abyssea definitely has th monopoly. I think the solution is far easier than you are suggesting.

Increase minimum level of entry into Abyssea to level 60.

I don't see any reason why somebody sub 60 would want to go into abyssea other than leeching. Copled with better fields of valor across the world encouraging exploration, and I think it would help.

[Mnejing]

[wish12oz]

I was gonna post something like this, but all I have to do is quote it, thanks for the help!

[hiko]

I was gonna post something like this, but all I have to do is quote it, thanks for the help!

same thing.
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[sc4500]

abyssea is fine. It is the content that we been getting after abyssea that lacking and not equal to it thats the problem. example Like why can't we help people on lower city missions an get a rewards like a seal for someone city rank 5 mission ect.

Level cap on abyssea isnt the issue you can book burn just as fast to 99 in some cases faster then abyssea exp on boyahda tree alliance party when get a few lv99 to pull entire zone repeatly.

Whole new three area abyssea that had super hard mobs with great gear would have been cool and lv99 requirement to get into area. and most of the stuff you needed 2 to 16 people to get the stuff for awhile. every yr make it easier as they would add more content.

[SpankWustler]

I was gonna post something like this, but all I have to do is quote it, thanks for the help!

same thing.
(keep the quote chain going!!!!)

This Abyssea Thread IX: Vana'fest Edition!

[Mirage]

Yeah no. You see, OP, it's too late. Adding requirements for abyssea *now* will only do one thing, and that is make it harder for people who are new or returning to the game. It will create a huge divide between the players that have everything maxed and those who just got back and can't get any of that stuff as easily.

If Abyssea were going to get capped, it must have been done within the first month of its release, not over a year later.

[Hachiiiiii]

A'int nothing "logical" about this rant, bro.

Seriously, at this point with an actual expansion on the way, there's no reason to want those who are just now returning or newly joining (these people actually exist) to have a harder time catching up.

[cidbahamut]

I was gonna post something like this, but all I have to do is quote it, thanks for the help!

same thing.
(keep the quote chain going!!!!)

This Abyssea Thread IX: Vana'fest Edition!

I was coming here to post this exact thing, but you all beat me to the punch. Good job guys.