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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    No offense, but without gearswaps, RDM would never get anywhere with anything. Because there is simply no set of gear in the game that can effectively do everything, making RDM impossible.
    At the same time not every situation requires intensive gear swaps, either. Let's say you're a Mage-type character building Azure lights (for the purposes of this example, Blue Mage counts as an actual Mage). Sure, you can keep on doing those same gear swaps. But in the time it takes you to swap gears you can kill the monsters without the gear swaps.

    Despite what macro junkies like to say, gear swaps aren't a panacea and it's something that needs to be done on a case-by-case basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    At the same time not every situation requires intensive gear swaps, either. Let's say you're a Mage-type character building Azure lights (for the purposes of this example, Blue Mage counts as an actual Mage). Sure, you can keep on doing those same gear swaps. But in the time it takes you to swap gears you can kill the monsters without the gear swaps.

    Despite what macro junkies like to say, gear swaps aren't a panacea and it's something that needs to be done on a case-by-case basis.
    Guess that depends on how your managing the gear swaps too....as in whether it's in the legit macro system or not. But even with having to use a swap macro first then fire the spell/WS/JA, you are only talking a split second. It doesn't take long to get your timing down in most cases. That's more an issue of paying attention and compensating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Guess that depends on how your managing the gear swaps too....as in whether it's in the legit macro system or not. But even with having to use a swap macro first then fire the spell/WS/JA, you are only talking a split second. It doesn't take long to get your timing down in most cases. That's more an issue of paying attention and compensating.
    I might need help with the 'managing gear swaps' to be honest. I'm more or less new to swapping gear in for CDC. My current TP set gear has DEX +61 and my WS set has +80, it takes an agonizing six to seven seconds to macro in my WS set. Any advice on this for someone who isn't used to it?

    My gear swap macros looks something like this:

    /equip hands "pimp gloves" <me> <wait 1>
    /equip ring1 "ring o' bling" <me>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    [...]it takes an agonizing six to seven seconds to macro in my WS set. Any advice on this for someone who isn't used to it?

    My gear swap macro looks something like this:

    /equip hands "pimp gloves" <me> <wait 1>
    /equip ring1 "Bling Ring" <me>
    You do not need to add a 'wait' for those, neither do you need to wait for them to be actually visible on the character. ^^

    You wouldn't need a <me> there either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoy View Post
    You do not need to add a 'wait' for those, neither do you need to wait for them to be actually visible on the character. ^^

    You wouldn't need a <me> there either.
    So remove the wait commands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    So remove the wait commands?
    Indeed.

    Check
    • http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Macro
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    • http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Macro
    or whatever your favourite fan-site would be for more details if you haven't stumbled upon them yet. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    At the same time not every situation requires intensive gear swaps, either. Let's say you're a Mage-type character building Azure lights (for the purposes of this example, Blue Mage counts as an actual Mage). Sure, you can keep on doing those same gear swaps. But in the time it takes you to swap gears you can kill the monsters without the gear swaps.

    Despite what macro junkies like to say, gear swaps aren't a panacea and it's something that needs to be done on a case-by-case basis.
    I agree, in some cases gear swaps will not be needed, such as the one you speak, however this is only half true. You will likely do just as well as I if you had the same nuking set and such, but if I am quickly using a Fast Cast set with a proper amount of FC, my nukes will be better in the long run.

    I do actually stay in my nuking set for the most part when building azure, just saying it is possible and better to use a FC set for pre-cast, then your nuking set stacked with MAB & INT for your actual cast itself.

    RDM in and of itself in most uses it has in the game, is a very gear-centric job, thats why I said it, because without the ability to swap gear, RDM would be even more rejected than it is today due to losing much of its only trait it truly has left, flexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    At the same time not every situation requires intensive gear swaps, either. Let's say you're a Mage-type character building Azure lights (for the purposes of this example, Blue Mage counts as an actual Mage). Sure, you can keep on doing those same gear swaps. But in the time it takes you to swap gears you can kill the monsters without the gear swaps.

    Despite what macro junkies like to say, gear swaps aren't a panacea and it's something that needs to be done on a case-by-case basis.
    There is a lot more to this game than Abyssea, seems a lot of people have forgotten that. Try soloing Proto-Ultima as blu like Draylo on Leviathan has, without gearswaps. I guarantee you you won't last long. Or anything where you don't have the atma(cite)/cruor buffs crutch to rely on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    There is a lot more to this game than Abyssea, seems a lot of people have forgotten that.
    Funny but I seem to recall not making the assumption that there isn't anything more to the game than Aby. I even made the qualifier "even outside of Aby" when I said "it's something best done on a case-by-case basis".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa
    Try soloing Proto-Ultima as blu like Draylo on Leviathan has, without gearswaps. I guarantee you you won't last long. Or anything where you don't have the atma(cite)/cruor buffs crutch to rely on.
    And why would I do that? Besides which, I admire Draylo but I don't aspire to be like him. Being at the pinnacle must be tough and exhausting work. And there's plenty within the game I couldn't do on my own, and I acknowledge that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    Funny but I seem to recall not making the assumption that there isn't anything more to the game than Aby. I even made the qualifier "even outside of Aby" when I said "it's something best done on a case-by-case basis".

    You fail at reading comprehension. Go back and read again, this time for clarity. Do not pass Gilgamesh, do not collect 200 Gil.



    And why would I do that? Besides which, I admire Draylo but I don't aspire to be like him. Being at the pinnacle must be tough and exhausting work. And there's plenty within the game I couldn't do on my own, and I acknowledge that.
    You seriously just need to stop posting lol. . .
    Aside from that i think a lot of you forget that people are the main problem with all the ranting of botting, underhandedness, greed, or that elite kid back in 2007 'Picking on you' Perhaps the solution is to associate with better people or dont be around them at all. I think everyone has forgotten that these EXACT SAME ACTS happened in not only HNMs, but sky, sea, ect, everywhere, Singling out HNM is ignorant, Greed is greed and it happens everywhere on games like these, and not in one part, but all. No one here can tell me Abyssea doesnt hold the same similar greed factor, if anything higher output of gear makes the greedy worse. In a perfect world for many our HNMs were the only problem with the game and Abyssea was perfect.
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