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[Demon6324236]

So you are saying, to the people who CAN be on the game 4+ hours a day, that they can never excell over the people that play 2 hours a week?

In a way yes, if you have a life and you want to enjoy this game, you can not do both with how people arguing HNMs would seem to want it. As I said, you need things before people will let you do events with them, for instance, VW. VW normally you are turned down if you have no Emp/Relic & +2 or at least a WS & TP set. Myself I can do this, I play this game often, however people who do not get to do what? If you play 2 hours a week what can you do if you want to enjoy these events?

You can not say to make your own party, you have never done the content you will probably do it wrong, people will learn your name and avoid your partys. You cant make an Emp/Relic because you don't have the time. This limits players to much, and as I said, its punishing people who have their priorities straight. If you are changing when you sleep to depend on when a NM is going to be up on this game, you need to reevaluate yourself on what you are doing in your life.

Now, if you are determined to do something of grand scale that is a different story, the challenge of a relic can be done by someone with little time, my friend and co-leader to my ls is on only 3~4 hours a day due to real life things. He has been working on a Relic Great Axe, and is making progress when possible. In the same time he takes to finish this, someone who plays FFXI all day in and out could probably do 5 or 6 relics if not more, the point is, he can do the same thing as them, and has a mostly fair chance. HNMs on the scale that is being spoken of are 21~24 hour spawns, meaning in a persons 3~4 hour day, they would have a small chance if from the moment they got on till they got off, they could see the NM, let alone claim, and fight it.



I would rather the dev team focus on content 90% of us will experience and possibly enjoy, rather than content 10% of us claim we do/would enjoy, and 1~3% would actually get to experience.

[Habu]

In a way yes, if you have a life and you want to enjoy this game, you can not do both with how people arguing HNMs would seem to want it. As I said, you need things before people will let you do events with them, for instance, VW. VW normally you are turned down if you have no Emp/Relic & +2 or at least a WS & TP set. Myself I can do this, I play this game often, however people who do not get to do what? If you play 2 hours a week what can you do if you want to enjoy these events?

You can not say to make your own party, you have never done the content you will probably do it wrong, people will learn your name and avoid your partys. You cant make an Emp/Relic because you don't have the time. This limits players to much, and as I said, its punishing people who have their priorities straight. If you are changing when you sleep to depend on when a NM is going to be up on this game, you need to reevaluate yourself on what you are doing in your life.

I'm getting really tired of your "people with a life" crap. Because people who are good at this game and devote a decent amount of time to it don't have lives right? I've tried to remain somewhat light on the insults but it's obvious to everyone that you are a complete moron. So you can only do VW if you have an emp/relic, because the person can't go on a mage job? The person can't look at info before hand to learn how to setup a group for ANYTHING in the game? There is a plethora of strategies for every VW and even PW now. You say emps are hard and you can only make them if you devote a lot of time to the game? No. Farm a little when you can and it will get done, if you're that worried about being able to do an even then you'll be willing to farm a little whenever you can to be useful in said events.

Now, if you are determined to do something of grand scale that is a different story, the challenge of a relic can be done by someone with little time, my friend and co-leader to my ls is on only 3~4 hours a day due to real life things. He has been working on a Relic Great Axe, and is making progress when possible. In the same time he takes to finish this, someone who plays FFXI all day in and out could probably do 5 or 6 relics if not more, the point is, he can do the same thing as them, and has a mostly fair chance. HNMs on the scale that is being spoken of are 21~24 hour spawns, meaning in a persons 3~4 hour day, they would have a small chance if from the moment they got on till they got off, they could see the NM, let alone claim, and fight it.

Really? 3-4 hours a day is enough to farm Dynamis daily and still have sometime to do a random VW or w/e.

I would rather the dev team focus on content 90% of us will experience and possibly enjoy, rather than content 10% of us claim we do/would enjoy, and 1~3% would actually get to experience.

Whose to say they can't make content for both? You're worried that the gear might be better? Oh well, some people are just meant to be better.

[Demon6324236]

I'm getting really tired of your "people with a life" crap.

Let me rephrase then, people with a life which requires them to do things that prevent them from changing their life around a game. A NM that is up for grabs 1~2 seconds out of every 21~24 hours is not able to be worked around by these people. If you have a husband/wife, kids, a job, friends outside of the game, and do normal daily healthy functions such as sleep a proper amount, bathe, eat, and exercise, no, you will not have time for content that requires you to sit at your PC for 3 hours waiting for a creature to pop up on your screen.

Because people who are good at this game and devote a decent amount of time to it don't have lives right?

Not at all, simply highly unlikely that you can fit in 3 hours in a busy life schedule to sit at your PC and watch as your character sits there waiting for a monster to pop up so you can fight it.

I've tried to remain somewhat light on the insults but it's obvious to everyone that you are a complete moron.

Yes, I am a moron for wanting a game to be good and not restricted to where content is never played or participated in by many people, rather led to frustration by it instead.

So you can only do VW if you have an emp/relic, because the person can't go on a mage job? The person can't look at info before hand to learn how to setup a group for ANYTHING in the game? There is a plethora of strategies for every VW and even PW now.

Only so many mages can go in VW, only if you have all your procs, only if you have proper skills can you land some, so these are still no safe bet. Looking up strats is fine, but you see, you forget a few things, for 1, VW requires temp items for the most part, you will be without these unless you make runs for lower tiers, I'm not sure how it is where your from but here, thats very slow and annoying. Also, looking up strats will tell you info about the NM and how to fight it, but being told something, and experiencing something, is far different. You can tell someone how to lead, this does not make them a leader, time and experience can make a person fit to lead, which is what you ask them to do.

You say emps are hard and you can only make them if you devote a lot of time to the game? No. Farm a little when you can and it will get done, if you're that worried about being able to do an even then you'll be willing to farm a little whenever you can to be useful in said events.

Emps are not hard, solo they may be a bit difficult but with a linkshell you can knock one out easy. However consider the example of someone with 4 hours to play, the starting trials are nothing of speed you can determine, they are slow no matter what you do. I refer to the lottery spawn NMs, at best in these 4 hours you will see 3 because they all have minimum respawns of 1 hour, at worst you may not see any at all from the time your on till you log off. Lets not forget that during this time you are completely bored which is what a game is supposed to prevent, by bringing fun & entertainment.

Really? 3-4 hours a day is enough to farm Dynamis daily and still have sometime to do a random VW or w/e.

If you don't have to gear, are near where you plan to enter, are ready to go when you log on, and the VW afterwords is nearly full when you join it. Dyna takes 2 hours inside, before you go you may have to gear up, buy items, move to the location which you plan to enter at, and then enter, this should be between 5~20 minutes depending on number of steps, and location of which you enter/your distance from it. VW normally is not a 10 minute shout then you go, or at least not many I see, most are from empty to full about a hour of shouting or more, last few people can take 10~20 minutes if you are being picky on jobs, much harder to fit in.

Whose to say they can't make content for both? You're worried that the gear might be better? Oh well, some people are just meant to be better.

That better attitude is what I have a problem with, not so much the gear itself. When people have something you don't, they tend to do what they can to flaunt that and show it off as if they are something special to be admired, which isn't actually the case. In most cases when this happens people get a large ego and try to act like they are amazing, and they can do whatever they please, they will talk down to you, and treat you like crap because they got a piece of gear most people don't. Any argument with them can be diverted by a "you only say that cause your jealous of my amazing gear!" comment. If they make content for both with equal rewards, and only for the people such as yourself to enjoy it, then so be it.


If you can not be content with it being made so everyone can get the same gear, then stop saying you want HNM, what you really want is gear only certain people can have, that way you can feel special like you are something to be admired, which you arnt.