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    I still don't get the whole concept of skill and endgame yet to come, as it stands we have a very broke enmity system still meaning DD's will always be tanking and the only strat that will prevail until otherwise addressed is zerging.

    Perhaps i'm crazy? or am i right? habu's group need not reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nala View Post
    I still don't get the whole concept of skill and endgame yet to come, as it stands we have a very broke enmity system still meaning DD's will always be tanking and the only strat that will prevail until otherwise addressed is zerging.

    Perhaps i'm crazy? or am i right? habu's group need not reply.
    Because we have no ability to right now, as it stands everything is to strong to fight traditionaly(VW), or to restricting(NNI) as to make it imposible. Enmity is screwed, but I think that was obvious, not to mention we have been introduced to the biggest AoE spam of mobs ever which would mean if a tank could tank it would just mean everyone else gets hurt a lil less.
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    I was going to say you're right but I was told I need not reply.
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    Timed spawns are fine, as long as they're not OMGSTUPIDLYLONGRESPAWN. The longest a resapwn should ever be is 8 hours for a HQ NM, so that it should have 1 pop per day during JP, EU and NA times. NQ NM placeholders should be ~every hour.
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    Timed NMs?

    AAAARGUUUUUUUUUUUS.

    Seriously, weeks of camping him, maybe popped about 3 times, and I got him twice, and it never dropped. I lost a lot of sleep trying to get that damn drop. To this day, I've never owned a PCC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    Timed NMs?

    AAAARGUUUUUUUUUUUS.

    Seriously, weeks of camping him, maybe popped about 3 times, and I got him twice, and it never dropped. I lost a lot of sleep trying to get that damn drop. To this day, I've never owned a PCC.
    I actually got that some time ago from Nyzul Isle Investigation. °~°

    It's also the first, and only 'non-junk' item I have gotten from any assault, and I've done them quite a lot (every assault mission at least once, and lots of Nyzul). I still don't quite believe it, to be honest.

    What we need more is, monsters that de-spawn even if not defeated successfully after being aggravated, and they will very rarely 'drop' an item that you need at least 3 high level crafts to make into the 'real' item, and then use highly convoluted evoliths to make them better. With of course at least 3-7 days of re-spawn timer.

    No, just no...

    I never really understood how it is balanced to have low low drop-rates. Think about the Defending Ring. It has been in the game since what, 2006? And there are 705 of them (obviously some accounts with it are likely to be inactive, and due to the spawn behaviour, not too many King Behemoths were/are slain). But still, it will never be balanced because other people may work on it for a small eternity with no results to show for it, while others don't need to, because of luck.

    One simply cannot balance luck!
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    Only thing I really have to say is:

    If you casuals can have what you wish no questions asked, why is it so wrong of us to get something we want as well.

    And secondly, you don't like timed spawned NMs amazing, we get it, but I have to ask who in the blue f**k said you had to participate in it? If you don't like it don't do it, easy complex anyone can understand.

    And we get crap for posting bringing back timed spawn NM posts yet I don't see why it's wrong for us to defend our point against posts like this in return, it's not only your game, and a lot of you who do complain, not all, either have no clue what you're talking bout, I.e. Heard from a friend or whomever, read old forum crap on hnm, or you were those guys who just couldn't claim or kill anything. All that petty crap aside point is, game should appease more than casuals, content shouldn't be so narrow minded, and no ones putting guns to your heads saying camp this. Quit rage posting crying about having to do it, you're not obligated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    Only thing I really have to say is:

    If you casuals can have what you wish no questions asked, why is it so wrong of us to get something we want as well.
    Pssst. Over here. Hey, buddy, I got some info for ya... Not everyone who hates timed spawn NMs is a casual.
    Why am I against it being reintroduced? It makes the game look bad. Even if I don't participate, stupid content makes the game look stupid. The more archaic, outdated, and/or poorly designed content they introduce the worse FFXI looks, and we have far too much of that already.

    Try imagining explaining the old HNM scene to friends who are skeptical or on the fence about FFXI. I guarantee that such friends won't be entering Vana'diel after hearing an honest description of how it works.


    And secondly, you don't like timed spawned NMs amazing, we get it, but I have to ask who in the blue f**k said you had to participate in it? If you don't like it don't do it, easy complex anyone can understand.

    I have to "participate" in it by paying for its production. Sorry if I'd rather see them produce things I'd actually like to do instead.

    And we get crap for posting bringing back timed spawn NM posts yet I don't see why it's wrong for us to defend our point against posts like this in return, it's not only your game, and a lot of you who do complain, not all, either have no clue what you're talking bout, I.e. Heard from a friend or whomever, read old forum crap on hnm, or you were those guys who just couldn't claim or kill anything. All that petty crap aside point is, game should appease more than casuals, content shouldn't be so narrow minded, and no ones putting guns to your heads saying camp this. Quit rage posting crying about having to do it, you're not obligated.

    We get crap for posting we don't want it anymore. It's not wrong for us to defend our point either. It's not only your game. I DO have a clue about exactly what HNMs involved. I did it day in and day out for years. I have more than enough experience with it and every right to tell my fellow players how horrible it was and every right to tell SE not to produce stuff like it anymore.

    The game should appease more than casuals? In the post-Abyssea era it's not appeasing casuals at all. It's all you guys right now, so I kind of wonder what you're so upset about. There's plenty of rare hard-to-get gear and even an event that effectively promotes cheating for it (NEO Nyzul). The only difference is you don't get to make someone else miserable to get what you want, and if you enjoy making other people miserable then please seek help now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    Only thing I really have to say is:

    If you casuals can have what you wish no questions asked, why is it so wrong of us to get something we want as well.

    And secondly, you don't like timed spawned NMs amazing, we get it, but I have to ask who in the blue f**k said you had to participate in it? If you don't like it don't do it, easy complex anyone can understand.

    And we get crap for posting bringing back timed spawn NM posts yet I don't see why it's wrong for us to defend our point against posts like this in return, it's not only your game, and a lot of you who do complain, not all, either have no clue what you're talking bout, I.e. Heard from a friend or whomever, read old forum crap on hnm, or you were those guys who just couldn't claim or kill anything. All that petty crap aside point is, game should appease more than casuals, content shouldn't be so narrow minded, and no ones putting guns to your heads saying camp this. Quit rage posting crying about having to do it, you're not obligated.
    Ill make you a deal, you can have your time spawns & HNMs, when I can obtain the gear they drop with a slightly lower drop rates and the same people, but with a pop item that is decently ok to obtain. By this I mean, the pop does not drop off of the time NM, does not get restricted by dropping from another time NM, and does not drop from something with a small rate but is limiting such as BCNMs. This way it is purely for your enjoyment if you want it, and yet people who don't want to deal with the BS that is time spawns do not have to, but suffer a slightly smaller drop rate.

    Note:To specify what I mean by slightly, I mean if something has a 30% drop rate, it would be something like 20%, not 1% or 5%. This means while there is an advantage to time spawns, it is not a huge advantage, and is mainly only for the enjoyment of those who wish this content type.
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    i personally like timed spawns. should every nm be timed no. should some yes. >.> they need to make more 8-16 hour spawns. its not like they wont have something for u to do to get gear from. so why take timed spawns from those that enjoy it.
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