No Timed Pop Notorious Monsters In New Expansion

[Demon6324236]

Meh, maybe I'm alone but that just seems lame to me.

Me as well.

[saevel]

Meh, maybe I'm alone but that just seems lame to me.

It is lame. It's the mark of someone with a social disorder or self esteem problem. Their deriving self esteem from the rarity of virtual property, namely in the ownership of some 1's and 0's inside SE's server center. Make those pieces of virtual property common to acquire and their self esteem generating value goes down. Not only must the virtual property be rare, it must be highly desirable in order to have a high self esteem generating value.

Or you can just get the heck out of the game and go get a real life. Get laid a few times, get a GF (BF) or two. Attend some form of social events and make connections with actual people. Set goals and reach them, acquire actual real self esteem. Then look back and realize how utterly stupid it is to use virtual property as a source of self esteem.

[Zerich]

HNM = Future, but only the true elites will get to fight them and win, take your perle PUG and go back to abyssea, ffxi belongs to the no lifers once again.

proof of troll

[Habu]

It is lame. It's the mark of someone with a social disorder or self esteem problem. Their deriving self esteem from the rarity of virtual property, namely in the ownership of some 1's and 0's inside SE's server center. Make those pieces of virtual property common to acquire and their self esteem generating value goes down. Not only must the virtual property be rare, it must be highly desirable in order to have a high self esteem generating value.

Or you can just get the heck out of the game and go get a real life. Get laid a few times, get a GF (BF) or two. Attend some form of social events and make connections with actual people. Set goals and reach them, acquire actual real self esteem. Then look back and realize how utterly stupid it is to use virtual property as a source of self esteem.

And everyone says I'm the one throwing insults at people.

[Reiterpallasch]

I didn't want to make an Emp, I had to to be accepted into partys otherwise I was gimp. I didn't want to focus on another job besides RDM, I had to because people reject RDMs. To play this game yes you have to have certain things and are forced into certain content like it or not.

What stopped you from making your own parties? Surely people didn't check you as you shouted and went "omg no emp? gimp!". So no, you didn't need to make one. But as easy as they are to make, there's no reason not to, either.

Simple way to see HNMs in my eyes. You like to camp the NMs, if your reason is you like the feel of knowing you got the NM before everyone else, and they are now mad, you are an asshole, simple as that. You are happy because of others misery, thats being an asshole, and why I do not support the content, same thing as gloating, you want special gear for you cause your "better" or spent more time, no, this leads to gloating you have things people don't. If you did not want to gloat then there is little reason why diverse gear would matter to you, as such nothing you have presented for HNMs being good is morally correct or good, and should not happen.

I'm an asshole? Nowhere did I say I'm happy because of the misery of others, nor am I gloating. I actually said that good gear shouldn't be hard to get. I said the best gear should be hard to get and that not everybody should have it.

The fact that you're so offended by the idea that people like yourself might *gasp* not just be handed the absolute best gear for minimal effort just shows that you, sir, are the asshole.



Edit: I don't want better gear than you for the fucking funsies of having better gear. I want better gear as a reward for the dedication of putting the time and effort into obtaining said gear without having my accomplishment shit on by someone that wants to get the same thing for 1/10th the effort.

[Rosina]

this is why i dislike timed pop nms...
so just a few hours ago me me friend and a random camper joined up to kill valkrum emperor. we hunt the thing for 2-3+ hours. We are pretty much falling asleep being bored to tears.... the thing finally pops around 2am est. And.... no drop. Pretty much wasted 3 hours hunting for a mob that "may" drop a decenjt peice of head gear so i can save gil on not needing to keep updating my head gear for a while.

I almost feel asleep and died a few times from aggro cuz we hunted it while getting my support job item... which ironically didn't drop till after 24 mobs. We got so bored we started talking about random bs.. from how much we hate timed pops to ffxiv.

for those who don't seem to get the dislike of timed pop nm. People WANT to do they content they help pay for. And its stupid that time issues prevent it. Like I said i play 12-20 hours a day, and still can't always be up for a hnm window. Thats a bad design.

[Demon6324236]

What stopped you from making your own parties? Surely people didn't check you as you shouted and went "omg no emp? gimp!". So no, you didn't need to make one. But as easy as they are to make, there's no reason not to, either.


I'm an asshole? Nowhere did I say I'm happy because of the misery of others, nor am I gloating. I actually said that good gear shouldn't be hard to get. I said the best gear should be hard to get and that not everybody should have it.

The fact that you're so offended by the idea that people like yourself might *gasp* not just be handed the absolute best gear for minimal effort just shows that you, sir, are the asshole.



Edit: I don't want better gear than you for the fucking funsies of having better gear. I want better gear as a reward for the dedication of putting the time and effort into obtaining said gear without having my accomplishment shit on by someone that wants to get the same thing for 1/10th the effort.

My 2nd part was basicly to anyone with the same idealism as this fellow here

Its goood bc it severly limits the flow of "rare" items. things commoners don't have, things like the VW pulse gear should of been put on 21-24 HNM with a signifigantly higher drop rate. Not made so casuals can spam it 1000x. Drama and jealousy and everpresent in all MMOs, no matter what it will always be there, what made ffxi so great b4 is that this was embraced in the HNM community, i loved the drama and the thrill of claiming knowing theres anywhere from 30-100 ppl being mad cause im getting to fight the nm and they're not, it wasn't even about the drops for the first few minutes just the "OH YEA ITS MINE" feeling. Whats good for you and whats good for the game are two different things.

As for being handed gear you don't understand. You for some reason do not understand the stupidity that is the idea of a monster in a virtual world that if you wish to fight you will likely need to base your life around. Some people have jobs, need to sleep, have family and friends outside, the game should not punish people who have their priorities in check and know life>game.

[Zerich]

this is why i dislike timed pop nms...
so just a few hours ago me me friend and a random camper joined up to kill valkrum emperor. we hunt the thing for 2-3+ hours. We are pretty much falling asleep being bored to tears.... the thing finally pops around 2am est. And.... no drop. Pretty much wasted 3 hours hunting for a mob that "may" drop a decenjt peice of head gear so i can save gil on not needing to keep updating my head gear for a while.

I almost feel asleep and died a few times from aggro cuz we hunted it while getting my support job item... which ironically didn't drop till after 24 mobs. We got so bored we started talking about random bs.. from how much we hate timed pops to ffxiv.

for those who don't seem to get the dislike of timed pop nm. People WANT to do they content they help pay for. And its stupid that time issues prevent it. Like I said i play 12-20 hours a day, and still can't always be up for a hnm window. Thats a bad design.

these are either really bad trolls, or very sad individuals who enjoy being played by the game. simple.

[Rosina]

these are either really bad trolls, or very sad individuals who enjoy being played by the game. simple.

I hope ur not talking about me. I wasn't making it seem i was complaining about the drop rate of empress hairpin. Was more stated how bored i was trying to actually do the fight to try and get the gear. VE is a fun fight at low level. Same for LL at lower level. And the drops can hold you for several levels which saves you some good gil if your returnging or starting fresh.

I'm more saying 3 hours of bordem, 2 minutes of fun is a bad design. Drop or not. Cuz as i stated before

I do not do content for drops, I do content to do content. getting a drop is bonus to me. This is because at the end of the day, the memory of a fun fight is longer lasting after log off then a vitural Item that has no meaning after log off.

[Zerich]

I hope ur not talking about me. I wasn't making it seem i was complaining about the drop rate of empress hairpin. Was more stated how bored i was trying to actually do the fight to try and get the gear. VE is a fun fight at low level. Same for LL at lower level. And the drops can hold you for several levels which saves you some good gil if your returnging or starting fresh.

I'm more saying 3 hours of bordem, 2 minutes of fun is a bad design. Drop or not. Cuz as i stated before

I do not do content for drops, I do content to do content. getting a drop is bonus to me. This is because at the end of the day, the memory of a fun fight is longer lasting after log off then a vitural Item that has no meaning after log off.

oh god no, i wasn't talking about you ; - ;
sorry it looked like that.

it was on a statement of people who find programming their sleep schedule over a game, being 'fun'.