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    Player Alistaire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I wonder why people think this.

    How do you know you're not facing the wrong direction, and therefore are hurting your chances?
    Simple. Someone, years ago, figured out a theory of a pattern. So at that point either 1 of 2 things is right: 1. direction does affect crafting. or 2. it doesn't.

    on #2 it definitely doesn't hurt.
    on #1 it doesn't hurt unless they figured it out absolutely wrong. Considering the people who put the time into figuring out patterns do so with at least some sort of reasoning that's at least a little more likely to be right than wrong.

    So without knowing for sure you'd have to say 50/50 on whether it helps or not, making it at least a bit more likely to not hurt since it's 50% + whatever # you'd put in for the quality of work of whoever figured out the pattern.

    The only way to say it's more likely to hurt is if you're going to say the info was put out there wrong on purpose. There's certainly some history for JP doing that but not really a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.

    Edit: What would be great would be if someone from SE could comment on this. This is that other myth/theory that's pretty much right up there with treasure hunter as a mechanic the playerbase came up with ideas about but SE kept quiet about how it really worked. So, SE, does direction/moon phase/day of the vanadiel week affect crafting or not? And if so, did we figure it out right?
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 07-07-2012 at 12:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    on #1 it doesn't hurt unless they figured it out absolutely wrong. Considering the people who put the time into figuring out patterns do so with at least some sort of reasoning that's at least a little more likely to be right than wrong.

    This is my point. If you believe that direction affects crafting you'd be much better off facing a different direction every time you synth. Let's say there are 8 different directions, and one of them will hurt you, choosing a different direction every synth gives you a 7/8 chance of not being negatively affected. The only way to know for sure if a particular direction affects crafting is to do controlled tests. And since no one has done any of those you have no way of knowing what affects what.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    This is my point. If you believe that direction affects crafting you'd be much better off facing a different direction every time you synth. Let's say there are 8 different directions, and one of them will hurt you, choosing a different direction every synth gives you a 7/8 chance of not being negatively affected. The only way to know for sure if a particular direction affects crafting is to do controlled tests. And since no one has done any of those you have no way of knowing what affects what.
    The basis of the theory was that the two directions that impact any given crystal both have a positive and a negative attribute; one direction increases the likelihood of failing, but also increases the chances of skilling up and/or HQing, while the other direction decreases the likelihood of failing, as well as decreasing the chance of HQing and/or skilling up; and/or's depend on which of the earlier theories you favor/follow. Either way, you're not really screwing yourself over by being cautious and playing the "it doesn't hurt" game. Besides, until SE flat out says "that's a load of nonsense" people will continue to believe it, and honestly, even if they do, people may continue just out of habit, or because they're superstitious.
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    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.