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    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    Even if SE did come out and flat out say that the directional theory is false, ppl would still face the directions anyway. And I'm sure they get some amusement out of watching ppl argue over this still lol.
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    ><)))°ŋ

    I often face the opposite direction of the suggested, just because!

    Meaning I never believed in it, and I think I was pretty much convinced already before reading the comment from them saying something along the lines of “if people believe it helps, then it helps!”, but not saying yes or no to it really.

    I'd vote for no.
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    ...or so the legend says.


  3. #13
    Player sc4500's Avatar
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    Direction to crafting does matter to a point. but it is a myth to the rest of the people.

    I have have spent two solid years back when the game came out on ps2 ver, and spent most of my time crafting back then while waiting for a party. I read every theory and had almost 500 pages of data from websites and did alot of private tests. I will not tell you all my findings, because i would be stupid to since it would drop the prices on stuff and I would not make gill. Yet i feel I can give you a little information , if you find out what i know then it will be up to you if you really want to tell the world. I spend most my time cooking, but over the years i have teached some people my ways and they are still amazed I was able to figure it out.

    First off i do not believe at the time square even knew it , it might have just been a bug or what not, but now days every conquest total they seem to change some the information it sometimes will take you 5 real days just to find it then they scramble it back up.

    There are 7-9 other parts that you need to know before you will notice the directions part then it will make a difference. i call it the sweet spot with enough practice you can find it. Most of the time it is off the yams system they use. I found this part out from one there events they had years ago was my missing piece.

    My best hq result was 42/44 on mithkabobs hqs. when my cooking was only 74. And there has been a few other times on items that i made stuff were I went 20/20 and 30/30. and there have been times were i help friends go 1 out of 2 on hq +1 armor and weapons and times they went 4/5.

    The 3 hq tiers each are different direction , you can tell this by the items you lost if you broke. just like when you find the sweet spot for skilling up you will get skill ups on breaks and should run a streak of .1-.3 6 times in a row or more under 70 skill . I have help a few my close friends lv up there craft 35 lvs in 6 hours ish. once you get over 75 on a craft it will take longer.

    Yes there has been a time were i had to talk to a GM for like 2 hrs or so and explain every thing I knew about crafting and he was like WOW. Even he didn't believe me and when I did teach him he like WOW.

    I got lazy and drunk years ago and was making some food items for a few friends and was HQing massive amount near a jueno AH and some people called a GM on me people thought i was cheating. Plus people were sending me tells saying i was cheating also , to the point I just did shouts and at that time and with the information I knew and learned I had them HQing, but 99% them had know clue how I figured it out just research and practice. All I needed to know was a few things from the random people and was able to HQ the stuff for them with my information, they were on there characters and craft , I just told them the direction and few other things.

    Now for the conclusion, square has change some the stuff over the years. Even back then there was only a few dozen or so people that found all this out and for those years we just would never post how we knew there was no cheat codes or nothing just practice and seeing the pattern and would go on tons of websites to debunk anything or anyone that got close to it , since took alot of us back in the day alot of research and work and WHY should anyone else get the rewards. There is now enough misinformation out there. That i feel I can post this.

    Good luck and happy crafting, once you figure it out, It will be up to you, do you really want to give up the information so you can't make gil?
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    Player Lemoncloak's Avatar
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    Someone asked years ago.

    The reply was "Hahaha, face the direction your heart tells you to."

    Crafting takes money and time. It's random. Stop trying to look for shortcuts and patterns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sc4500 View Post
    Direction to crafting does matter to a point. but it is a myth to the rest of the people.

    I have have spent two solid years back when the game came out on ps2 ver, and spent most of my time crafting back then while waiting for a party. I read every theory and had almost 500 pages of data from websites and did alot of private tests. I will not tell you all my findings, because i would be stupid to since it would drop the prices on stuff and I would not make gill. Yet i feel I can give you a little information , if you find out what i know then it will be up to you if you really want to tell the world. I spend most my time cooking, but over the years i have teached some people my ways and they are still amazed I was able to figure it out.

    First off i do not believe at the time square even knew it , it might have just been a bug or what not, but now days every conquest total they seem to change some the information it sometimes will take you 5 real days just to find it then they scramble it back up.

    There are 7-9 other parts that you need to know before you will notice the directions part then it will make a difference. i call it the sweet spot with enough practice you can find it. Most of the time it is off the yams system they use. I found this part out from one there events they had years ago was my missing piece.

    My best hq result was 42/44 on mithkabobs hqs. when my cooking was only 74. And there has been a few other times on items that i made stuff were I went 20/20 and 30/30. and there have been times were i help friends go 1 out of 2 on hq +1 armor and weapons and times they went 4/5.

    The 3 hq tiers each are different direction , you can tell this by the items you lost if you broke. just like when you find the sweet spot for skilling up you will get skill ups on breaks and should run a streak of .1-.3 6 times in a row or more under 70 skill . I have help a few my close friends lv up there craft 35 lvs in 6 hours ish. once you get over 75 on a craft it will take longer.

    Yes there has been a time were i had to talk to a GM for like 2 hrs or so and explain every thing I knew about crafting and he was like WOW. Even he didn't believe me and when I did teach him he like WOW.

    I got lazy and drunk years ago and was making some food items for a few friends and was HQing massive amount near a jueno AH and some people called a GM on me people thought i was cheating. Plus people were sending me tells saying i was cheating also , to the point I just did shouts and at that time and with the information I knew and learned I had them HQing, but 99% them had know clue how I figured it out just research and practice. All I needed to know was a few things from the random people and was able to HQ the stuff for them with my information, they were on there characters and craft , I just told them the direction and few other things.

    Now for the conclusion, square has change some the stuff over the years. Even back then there was only a few dozen or so people that found all this out and for those years we just would never post how we knew there was no cheat codes or nothing just practice and seeing the pattern and would go on tons of websites to debunk anything or anyone that got close to it , since took alot of us back in the day alot of research and work and WHY should anyone else get the rewards. There is now enough misinformation out there. That i feel I can post this.

    Good luck and happy crafting, once you figure it out, It will be up to you, do you really want to give up the information so you can't make gil?
    TL;DR: Trust me gaiz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    If facing a certain direction doesn't affect crafting chances, then what is the elemental wheel for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    If facing a certain direction doesn't affect crafting chances, then what is the elemental wheel for?
    What "elemental wheel"?
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    If facing a certain direction doesn't affect crafting chances, then what is the elemental wheel for?
    That's for stacking magic to avoid resists and what not... look at the descriptions of elemental NIN spells or BRD songs, it lays out the wheel for you. Think you're confusing the wheel with the compass that pops up on all the sites telling you which direction is best---that's all part of the theory/myth behind it all, and based on the star chart.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    The "Elemental wheel" does affect crafting.

    If you are using a wind crystal you will have better HQ rates under certain conditions during Iceday and Darksday, and worse HQ rates during Earthsday and Lightsday.

    And unlike the "direction matters" people I have data to back up that claim:

    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...388898652&h=50

    In order to go from "elemental wheel matters" to "Direction matters" you have to show evidence that a link exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  10. #20
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    One helpful hint , just look on your floor of the mog house and look at the hidden wheel. Then start asking your self why? and why would they have level ones characters lv through the roof? Last each day of the week the direction will change, and now days sensitive spot and it moves with the time. The rest you can just research. Also all three hq are in a different spot from the skill ups ones.

    I got the data but will never show it, it all in my memory nowdays I burn all paperwork on a drunken bonefire party 4 yrs ago. , but all the info is out there just need find out what is wrong and what is right. It would be up to someone to stupid to give it all out to the masses , and also square will just change it like they do all the time.

    I will tell you that on lightning day at certain moon phase under 50% but over 50% not the 90% over or the !0% under ones , bug broths back in the day, if went SE with 2 items, you would hq 90% the time at only 12 lvs above then once you got 51 above it was hq 3. It no longer works so moot point.
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    Last edited by sc4500; 07-17-2012 at 06:28 PM.
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