New Black Belt

[Urat]

Nope, it doesn't. Plenty of ways to improve Black Belt without even changing the haste.

Add "Enhances martial arts" to it to such a degree it makes it worthwhile using. Or something that just increases DPS on par with pieces like thaumus body or windbuffet belt.

Quadruple attack, triple attack, martial arts, +dmg of some kind, enough to make it wortwhile.

You could honestly put 25% haste on the belt and it would still be meh. So much incredibly good tping equipment also has haste on it, even if you have BB at 25% haste youd still probably find the optimal TPing build would just have you wearing it and a few other pieces of gear that ALSO have haste and stuff like double attack and etc, resulting in monks walking around wearing 30~35% haste in gear, and working out to optimal DPS anyways.

Haste is definitly NOT what BB+1 needs. Stick quadruple attack+a lot on it and everyone should be happy.

[hiko]

H2H skill +n
enhance kick attacks

n is same as on a weapon of the same ilvl than the new BB
enhance kick attacks: base kick+h2hskill*.22)

(mixed reply for the two thread)

[FrankReynolds]

In light of the new gear updates, it should get H2H skill +242, Guard Skill + 242, Magic Evasion +242, Kick Attacks +10 and damage taken -10%.

LOL

[Toioiz]

It would need to be better than the windbuffet belt for most to even consider it, and gear haste that doesn't go over the cap isn't going to do that.

[Demon6324236]

With all of the Haste gear we have now with insane stats to the point of being able to cap without any sacrifice at all off of just base gear, this belt has next to no hope of being useful once they update it really. They have to do something to make it worth while like Martial Arts, DA/TA/QA, a special bonus only it provides, or something else, because at this point Black Belt is completely worthless so far as I know(can cap Haste in a PDT Hybrid set without it even so far as I know) which is sad. At a time this belt sounded really nice, now, it seems like its only a lost cause because unless SE completely overpowers it, or redesigns its stats completely, it wont matter.

[Kriegsgott]

Haste dosn matter anymore

Material Arts
Counter
Kick Attack's
Guard
Physical dmg-
Stats

i would like to see lots of these stats get added to our new BB

[Demon6324236]

Haste dosn matter anymore

Material Arts
Counter
Kick Attack's
Guard
Physical dmg-
Stats

i would like to see lots of these stats get added to our new BB

The sad thing is, so far as I know, all of those stats are useless in high buff situations/against most deadly targets, or unlikely.

Martial Arts isn't bad, but it effects the delay reduction cap, which means in any situation your getting a lot of buffs that's not really doing anything.

Counter is bad for the same reason, Counter is cool and all but since a great deal of mobs use TP moves as normal attacks, even normal mobs like Mata types and Mantis types, so giving more of that would be nice but it would become worthless against most hard targets anyways.

Kick Attacks from what I am told are also very weak now by compare to punches, so much so that the stat on Black Belt wouldn't do much either anyways, however if I'm wrong then obviously it has a place, but I don't know.

Guard has the same issue as counter, any TP-only mob would hit right through it I believe, that and I think it has a crap low cap rate, like 20%.

PDT, sounds nice, but again, we can cap PDT, or at least nearly cap it, with Oatixur, the Otronif Set with augments, Wiglen Gorget, Darkness Earrings, Dark/Defending Ring/s, and Shadow Mantle. While your talking about a lot of hard to get things, specific augments on Otronif, Oatixur, and Dring, you have to think that the new Black Belt will be hard to get too, possibly something like trading in the KI for all Delve Bosses or some such, not an easy task itself. If so, people would be more likely to take this path I would think, since you would end up walking away with more Defense, and thus, less damage taken most likely anyways, but that also depends on future gear so nothing is set in stone.

Stats are possible, but its unlikely to see it come anywhere near the gear if that's what you mean, since Stats like STR & DEX are only inflated to match item levels, and no accessories have item levels, to make BB have something like +20 everything would be like I said above, completely overpowered.

[Reaper]

Guard has the same issue as counter, any TP-only mob would hit right through it I believe, that and I think it has a crap low cap rate, like 20%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6orP8M_nG8

[Kriegsgott]

I get your point and you ar right....
but i was focusing on the usually MNK stats which just died after SoA

[Reaper]

maybe it will follow the geometric progression of 16% haste 12 str, etc etc but with the addendim that the haste on it specifically breaks the gear haste cap? like how aegis breaks the mdt cap, burtgang breaks the pdt cap and spharai breaks the counter cap? although, 16% gear haste above the 25% cap might be OP considering the somewhat exponential growth haste has... then again, depending on the difficulty to acquire it might be appropriate, and windbuffet would still be theoretically better with HF up unless it breaks the 80% delay reduction cap as well... or had some other new stats on it