RIP RDM

[Llana_Virren]

Really because in VW, Pil was just sitting their drooling on himself because I landed Blind. Previous to a couple patches ago, you couldn't land enfeebles in VW about 1/2 the time. RDM got left out because enfeebles couldn't contribute to playing the same proc games as other jobs could. Now they can. RDM isn't fixed, but at least the newer content isn't specifically made to exclude RDM.

Once again, offer 2-4 and enfeebles. Get invited to VW on RDM. A couple of months back, not so much.

Do our enfeebles do anything? Not really. Dia 3 against most. Against some things, they will cripple NMs, but not against anything you would bring more than a party against. Still better than not even being considered in the game at all.

Spending 2 years as a Hastebot for ToAU parties didn't help either, and having been overlooked on both Enhancing and Enfeebling spells (which we were championing through our prime years) further distanced players from the job.



Have fun not playing your RDM. Don't gear it. And certainly never let anyone know you ever liked it. That way everyone thinks that no one plays RDM.

I'll keep gearing my other jobs on my RDM and full-timing my RDM. Why? Because it's possible and fun.

Even retired my RDM is better geared than most for magery. But inviting a RDM for 2-4 and enfeebles can easily be accomplished by me going on blm, subbing rdm (or sch) and covering MORE procs.

And if you landing Blind on Pil debilitated it as adequately as you say it did, I'd tell you to lay off the crack.

[ManaKing]

Even retired my RDM is better geared than most for magery. But inviting a RDM for 2-4 and enfeebles can easily be accomplished by me going on blm, subbing rdm (or sch) and covering MORE procs.

And if you landing Blind on Pil debilitated it as adequately as you say it did, I'd tell you to lay off the crack.

Proc = locked in VW, or do you somehow not know that?

Also get off your high horse, if you think your retired RDM is up to par then maybe you need to lay off the crack. Sure you can gear your RDM by gearing your SCH or BLM, but if you're not going to play your RDM, then why are you even here? You copped out and now you are trying to condescend on people that are willing to stick it out and play what they like instead of what is easy. Here's a slow clap to see you out you classy, classy gentleman/lady.

[Llana_Virren]

Proc = locked in VW, or do you somehow not know that?

Also get off your high horse, if you think your retired RDM is up to par then maybe you need to lay off the crack. Sure you can gear your RDM by gearing your SCH or BLM, but if you're not going to play your RDM, then why are you even here? You copped out and now you are trying to condescend on people that are willing to stick it out and play what they like instead of what is easy. Here's a slow clap to see you out you classy, classy gentleman/lady.

I retired my RDM because being an MP battery was not fun, or advantageous to my time spent in the game. And despite your sensitive response, the fact of the matter is that RDM is not dying. It is dead. It has been dead for years, and will continue to be so.

Suggesting that RDM is "fun" is misleading. It is fun if you like to play solo, or low-man with close friends.
RDM has and continues to offer nothing to end-game content, and for that reason I stopped having fun playing it.

[ManaKing]

I retired my RDM because being an MP battery was not fun, or advantageous to my time spent in the game. And despite your sensitive response, the fact of the matter is that RDM is not dying. It is dead. It has been dead for years, and will continue to be so.

Suggesting that RDM is "fun" is misleading. It is fun if you like to play solo, or low-man with close friends.
RDM has and continues to offer nothing to end-game content, and for that reason I stopped having fun playing it.

And cop out. See ya. Seriously, get out of here. RDM is still fun. You're just a quitter.

Sorry you can't figure out how to play RDM in end game content. It's already been discussed. You clearly don't like playing RDM. Stop posting here.

[SNK]

And cop out. See ya. Seriously, get out of here. RDM is still fun. You're just a quitter.

Sorry you can't figure out how to play RDM in end game content. It's already been discussed. You clearly don't like playing RDM. Stop posting here.

No offense but she's right. It's a dead job. I can't even remember the last time I was asked to gear up my RDM. For anything.

Ever.

[ManaKing]

No offense but she's right. It's a dead job. I can't even remember the last time I was asked to gear up my RDM. For anything.

Ever.

Because a job is not asked for, it is useless. Excellent we have some more geniuses in here tell us the definition of what it means for a job to be dead in video game terms.

It can still be played and be useful, but hey because no one shouts for one, they must be non existent.

[SpankWustler]

Arguing that a job is valid because it "is useful" is just as extreme as arguing that the job is dead. Any game in FFXI can be useful, but there are 20 of the darn things, so it's a matter of which is more useful or most useful.

Even though combining Chainspell with Stun might come back in vogue once Embrava and Perfect Defense are adjusted, there's the counter-argument that two Scholars would have low enough Stun recasts for the entire event rather than a 120 (140) second burst of TONS'O'STUNS. Or, depending on the monster, the new Paladin or Thief SP might be a better solution by then.

Red Mage might be really great for that one thing, eventually, but it looks from a distance like the job has competition for a niche it doesn't even have yet.

Things like "useful" and "dead" are very strong terms and very subjective. "Fun" is even more subjective. Objectively, Red Mage is one of the least useful jobs in FFXI currently and it needs tools it does not have.

[SNK]

Because a job is not asked for, it is useless. Excellent we have some more geniuses in here tell us the definition of what it means for a job to be dead in video game terms.

It can still be played and be useful, but hey because no one shouts for one, they must be non existent.

Because the last time a PLD asked for Refresh was how long ago?

Oh wait yeah Phalnax II for the tanks.... shit PLD can cast it now.

It's a job that went from being one of the most in demand jobs circa 2004/2006 to a job that is flat out worthless now outside of the bitter amusement from those who still cling to the false hope that SE will do something to make it stand out like it used to.

I would have thought this would have sunk into more people's heads after the last annoucement regarding RDM's new.... and pretty much worthless JA.

It was a fun ride but thankfully my other main job is still viable for stuff outside of Dynamis.