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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    its that the monster is either immune to the spell, or the spell carries negligible, if any effect.
    Really because in VW, Pil was just sitting their drooling on himself because I landed Blind. Previous to a couple patches ago, you couldn't land enfeebles in VW about 1/2 the time. RDM got left out because enfeebles couldn't contribute to playing the same proc games as other jobs could. Now they can. RDM isn't fixed, but at least the newer content isn't specifically made to exclude RDM.

    Once again, offer 2-4 and enfeebles. Get invited to VW on RDM. A couple of months back, not so much.

    Do our enfeebles do anything? Not really. Dia 3 against most. Against some things, they will cripple NMs, but not against anything you would bring more than a party against. Still better than not even being considered in the game at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Spending 2 years as a Hastebot for ToAU parties didn't help either, and having been overlooked on both Enhancing and Enfeebling spells (which we were championing through our prime years) further distanced players from the job.

    What many people chose not to see, is that having a "well geared RDM" was the argument in 2005/2006 against letting a RDM do things outside of the typecasted role. This is 2012, going on 2013, and the job is not being played in anything other than solo (or tight-knit lowman groups) because the job has nothing to contribute to the game.

    This is the cold honest truth about it, and anyone who thinks otherwise truly is living in the past.
    Have fun not playing your RDM. Don't gear it. And certainly never let anyone know you ever liked it. That way everyone thinks that no one plays RDM.

    I'll keep gearing my other jobs on my RDM and full-timing my RDM. Why? Because it's possible and fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Really because in VW, Pil was just sitting their drooling on himself because I landed Blind. Previous to a couple patches ago, you couldn't land enfeebles in VW about 1/2 the time. RDM got left out because enfeebles couldn't contribute to playing the same proc games as other jobs could. Now they can. RDM isn't fixed, but at least the newer content isn't specifically made to exclude RDM.

    Once again, offer 2-4 and enfeebles. Get invited to VW on RDM. A couple of months back, not so much.

    Do our enfeebles do anything? Not really. Dia 3 against most. Against some things, they will cripple NMs, but not against anything you would bring more than a party against. Still better than not even being considered in the game at all.

    Spending 2 years as a Hastebot for ToAU parties didn't help either, and having been overlooked on both Enhancing and Enfeebling spells (which we were championing through our prime years) further distanced players from the job.



    Have fun not playing your RDM. Don't gear it. And certainly never let anyone know you ever liked it. That way everyone thinks that no one plays RDM.

    I'll keep gearing my other jobs on my RDM and full-timing my RDM. Why? Because it's possible and fun.
    Even retired my RDM is better geared than most for magery. But inviting a RDM for 2-4 and enfeebles can easily be accomplished by me going on blm, subbing rdm (or sch) and covering MORE procs.

    And if you landing Blind on Pil debilitated it as adequately as you say it did, I'd tell you to lay off the crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Even retired my RDM is better geared than most for magery. But inviting a RDM for 2-4 and enfeebles can easily be accomplished by me going on blm, subbing rdm (or sch) and covering MORE procs.

    And if you landing Blind on Pil debilitated it as adequately as you say it did, I'd tell you to lay off the crack.
    Proc = locked in VW, or do you somehow not know that?

    Also get off your high horse, if you think your retired RDM is up to par then maybe you need to lay off the crack. Sure you can gear your RDM by gearing your SCH or BLM, but if you're not going to play your RDM, then why are you even here? You copped out and now you are trying to condescend on people that are willing to stick it out and play what they like instead of what is easy. Here's a slow clap to see you out you classy, classy gentleman/lady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Proc = locked in VW, or do you somehow not know that?

    Also get off your high horse, if you think your retired RDM is up to par then maybe you need to lay off the crack. Sure you can gear your RDM by gearing your SCH or BLM, but if you're not going to play your RDM, then why are you even here? You copped out and now you are trying to condescend on people that are willing to stick it out and play what they like instead of what is easy. Here's a slow clap to see you out you classy, classy gentleman/lady.
    I retired my RDM because being an MP battery was not fun, or advantageous to my time spent in the game. And despite your sensitive response, the fact of the matter is that RDM is not dying. It is dead. It has been dead for years, and will continue to be so.

    Suggesting that RDM is "fun" is misleading. It is fun if you like to play solo, or low-man with close friends.
    RDM has and continues to offer nothing to end-game content, and for that reason I stopped having fun playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    I retired my RDM because being an MP battery was not fun, or advantageous to my time spent in the game. And despite your sensitive response, the fact of the matter is that RDM is not dying. It is dead. It has been dead for years, and will continue to be so.

    Suggesting that RDM is "fun" is misleading. It is fun if you like to play solo, or low-man with close friends.
    RDM has and continues to offer nothing to end-game content, and for that reason I stopped having fun playing it.
    And cop out. See ya. Seriously, get out of here. RDM is still fun. You're just a quitter.

    Sorry you can't figure out how to play RDM in end game content. It's already been discussed. You clearly don't like playing RDM. Stop posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    And cop out. See ya. Seriously, get out of here. RDM is still fun. You're just a quitter.

    Sorry you can't figure out how to play RDM in end game content. It's already been discussed. You clearly don't like playing RDM. Stop posting here.
    No offense but she's right. It's a dead job. I can't even remember the last time I was asked to gear up my RDM. For anything.

    Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    No offense but she's right. It's a dead job. I can't even remember the last time I was asked to gear up my RDM. For anything.

    Ever.
    Because a job is not asked for, it is useless. Excellent we have some more geniuses in here tell us the definition of what it means for a job to be dead in video game terms.

    It can still be played and be useful, but hey because no one shouts for one, they must be non existent.
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