RIP RDM

[Luvbunny]

Well guess what? another nail just being put in RDM coffin, as if there are not way too many to begin with. Now embrava is giving player refresh effect.....instead of regain. It would be nice to give regain TP spells to RDM and others party buffing spells as well, as it is now, between WHM and SCH, there is really no need for any alliance to bring RDM to any events whatsoever since the role of the job can be covered with those two other jobs and do a much better than any RDM can possible bring to an alliance.

[ManaKing]

It sounds like I would have a hard time finding people to play with for end game stuff at lvl99 as a RDM. Luckily I don't have to be a RDM for all the roles that I might want to explore. If it is not RDM I'm on for those roles, I don't think it would make me any less fond of the RDM job. RDM is not dead, it's still RDM. Other roles are on the horizon.

Somewhat true. Is a RDM the same as a BLM in VW? Depends on how many you already have and who you are with. Other fun fact, you can actually land enfeebles for procs.

RDM is actually pretty cool in most low man content, SO LONG AS YOU ARE GEARED TO THE TEETH. I hope everyone realizes why I bolded and underlined that. It's really, really, ridiculously important to be geared on RDM. Why? Because we slide into mediocre really fast. I take mine to meebles, I've 3 manned goldwing. Everything else, I believe will require a full party though.

Well guess what? another nail just being put in RDM coffin, as if there are not way too many to begin with. Now embrava is giving player refresh effect.....instead of regain. It would be nice to give regain TP spells to RDM and others party buffing spells as well, as it is now, between WHM and SCH, there is really no need for any alliance to bring RDM to any events whatsoever since the role of the job can be covered with those two other jobs and do a much better than any RDM can possible bring to an alliance.

You are completely incorrect. Embrava is now 90 seconds. MATH!!!!

[Luvbunny]

You are completely incorrect. Embrava is now 90 seconds. MATH!!!!

Embrava should not give refresh effect, they should keep the regain effect. It is now last 90 x2.5 with AF3+2 hand, exactly 3 minutes, 45 seconds, MATH!!!!

They should add something new for RDM, revamped their spells so that RDM can buff the entire party or even alliance, isn't that one of RDM uniqueness - enhancing and debuffing the mobs plus crowd control?

[ManaKing]

Embrava should not give refresh effect, they should keep the regain effect. It is now last 90 x2.5 with AF3+2 hand, exactly 3 minutes, 45 seconds, MATH!!!!

They should add something new for RDM, revamped their spells so that RDM can buff the entire party or even alliance, isn't that one of RDM uniqueness - enhancing and debuffing the mobs plus crowd control?

Which is still not 5 minutes x 2.5 which is why you wouldn't waste a 30 minute ability on refresh unless you actually had a mage party that would need more MP. The reason RDM isn't everyone's mana battery anymore is they don't need it to be. They aren't replacing us with SCH, because that's not really our spot anymore, they are just putting SCH in it's place.

What I am trying to get across is why SE is giving refresh effect to embrava? It seems that all things that used to be in RDM repertoire is given away to other jobs and rendering RDM moot to end game events.

Yeah we know, we were nerfed before abyssea ever came out, we aren't the ones crying about nerfs because it's not happening to us. Go make another thread about how you deserve nice things for minimal work and reinstating chocobo blinkers prices so we can have a bloated economy. You'll get no sympathy from us since we never got any help from anyone else when our job was destroyed multiple times and you just stood around and watched.

[Luvbunny]

Yeah we know, we were nerfed before abyssea ever came out, we aren't the ones crying about nerfs because it's not happening to us. Go make another thread about how you deserve nice things for minimal work and reinstating chocobo blinkers prices so we can have a bloated economy. You'll get no sympathy from us since we never got any help from anyone else when our job was destroyed multiple times and you just stood around and watched.

LMAO, RDM + SCH + SMN are my favorite jobs when the level cap was at 75. When they nerf RDM to oblivion, giving addle to Whm, convert + refresh to everyone that sub rdm, and yet giving the job minimal gain, SMN + SCH ended being the two that are still good. Then the proposed nerf happened to those two jobs. I still fail to see why they ignore the RDMs thread, and refuse to give us a clear definition of what the job can and should be. I still think those youtube videos of RDM soloing everything at lvl 75 cap is to blame. When a job is working as intended in the hand of capable players and they can do the impossible, aka finishing contents, the nerf bats will swing.

FYI: don't really care much about blinkering fiasco, never really did it at all, it affect me none the slightest. But must they also make the cruor abysea gears non sellable to vendors?? I am not here to complaint about these. I am here to wonder why they keep giving RDM spells to every other jobs out there but not giving the job their own exclusive spells that make it stand out from the rest. When VW was introduced in its first few months, people actually bring out RDM again for tier 2 paralyze, slow, blind, bio 3 and dia 3 being one of the proc spells. And some mobs you want to chainspell stuns them. Then we pretty much dropped down and no longer needed once the zerg strategy is formulated and our spells no longer proc anything.