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    I lol at all the Tanaka LOVE since hes sick and gone... You wouldnt dare see a person write anything positive for him 4 days. But now all you see is admiration and almost worship to a man everyone would shit on 4 days ago lol its just like when michael jackson died hell we had country stations oldies stations playing a MJ song an hour and some stations were strictly MJ 24/7 for several days but youd been hard pressed to of found such things before his death. Hell they was people blasting MJ from their cars like it was the newest bestest songs out. I just dont understand why it always has to take a tragedy or death for people to express themselves if its not the status quo (

    Idk even know wth Tananka did that was so wrong myself all ive heard up to Japanafest was he ruined 11 and 14 ...

    Neways hope gets well to many people work there asses off only to retire to a sub quality of life ...
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    simple reasoning really..

    some people didn't like him for his work, but have nothing against him as a person.

    its all a matter of whether you know to draw the line between work and anything personal.
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    The funny part about this whole thread is people citing "Abyssea" as end-game. It was filler content until we hit 99. Now the real (grindy) shit hits. For those of you who thought there would be anything more, well, you're mistaken. For those who thought this wasn't planned in advance...
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    We may have had our ups and downs but..... /cry... I love you man ; ; <take care> Tanaka~~~
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    I've nothing personal against the guy, but the sway of content did progressively become more luck/random based after he returned as part of the staff. Certain issues never got addressed (rdm utility), other things were "re-balanced" in a way that is reminiscent of older "re-balancing" we've seen in the past (here have a stick of dynamite to play with (emp h2h/gaxe) now try to make do with this m80 instead). While they did adjust some of the difficulty in attaining gear of NI2.0, I'm still amazed at the fact they introduced legion like they did then made it less than worth the effort/difficulty in a small time limit. How getting gang raped by HNM's that require multiple waves be killed in 30min yet no "safe" area to rest in for weakened/low mp players due to roaming of mobs, AOE range, and aggro range is considered good content is beyond me.

    I don't call this all one persons fault, but he did hold sway enough to say "No, this content is not yet ready. Adjust it in this manner and test it some more" instead of releasing it unfinished then having to go back and readjust it after release because the players have found significant flaws in the enjoyability of the content due to minor, but very visible issues.

    So my problem isn't this whole "balance!" mentality...it's the fact that content seemed rushed out the door instead of going through proper QA before release, which oddly enough is the exact same thing that happened with 14. A game that shouldn't have gone live for at least another year and ended up flopping because someone was too afraid to say "no" before rushing it out the door. Had I been an investor I wouldn't have had an issue with this if the reason had been properly relayed as to a delay of release rather than see the aftermath of a bad product release. Not entirely his fault, no, but I highly doubt he had such a insignificant role that it couldn't have been avoided with proper information relay.
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    Hes responsible for my awesome childhood and stands as one of the very best
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLK8I...feature=relmfu

    This isn't about FFXI, Its about respect. Which people forgot about

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    HAHA OLD PEOPLE!!!! THEY SOO OLD YA KNOW...

    as for Tanaka... oldsolidsnakesalute.gif
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    It nice square finally fired him, oops meant gave him a choice to get fired or retirement but old bones still smart enough to come up with the old health excuse. i once work for large company till went to china and these were the excuses that the upper te ups use to do to save public face.

    Ill give him alot props for his direction on the story of the game , but the rest he was to proud of him self to listen to other people inside his organization. and what has he done in the last few yrs , messed up ff14 and also ff11 once he took over.

    For those that have not notice just do a sea all on your world and notice now that he took over that a few the server or down to 1k to 2k on some there ready for new merger again , at abyssea peak was 4k to 5k on most the servers. the game been going down hill because his direction.

    This biggest problem once done on abyssea or what not if were not in the rush to get void watch done your out of luck since no ones doing the lower tier ones. So time to quit, neo nyzul well see he brought the cheaters again.

    instead of innovating something he just makes it a grind. Instead of using stuff that works on other mmos that you can improve on , he just make stuff time sinks to point that it becomes time to quit game, he need understand that people work and got lifes and other stuff to do. Healthy mmos need have a balance for hardcore and the casuals player and that why abyssea was so nice, but could have used some more improvement. instead wasting time on voidwatch stuff he should just made a new abyssea in wing of goddess area that was super hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sc4500 View Post
    For those that have not notice just do a sea all on your world and notice now that he took over that a few the server or down to 1k to 2k on some there ready for new merger again , at abyssea peak was 4k to 5k on most the servers. the game been going down hill because his direction.
    I see you didn't do your research properly. Tanaka was in charge of FFXI while it was at its peak, and had its biggest number of subscribers. Incidentally, when he was moved off FFXI, player numbers slumped (and this started with Abyssea).

    Thinking he makes every decision on 'balance' without hundreds of team meetings lots of testing / number crunching shows that you know nothing about the development cycle or large organizations. While the 'blame' will fall on his shoulders (as it publicly has) - he's certainly not solely responsible and to think he is.... well, it's just irrational.

    The game went downhill because of 'Abyssea' and SE as much stated it when they told us "Abyssea was probably a mistake" in a public interview - still visible on Zam's website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    I see you didn't do your research properly. Tanaka was in charge of FFXI while it was at its peak, and had its biggest number of subscribers. Incidentally, when he was moved off FFXI, player numbers slumped (and this started with Abyssea).
    Subscription losses are generally a lagging indicator. If people were quitting around the heyday of Abyssea they were probably quitting for things related to pre-Abyssea. It's the post-Abyssea numbers you want.

    Thinking he makes every decision on 'balance' without hundreds of team meetings lots of testing / number crunching shows that you know nothing about the development cycle or large organizations. While the 'blame' will fall on his shoulders (as it publicly has) - he's certainly not solely responsible and to think he is.... well, it's just irrational.
    It's Japan. Anyone under him was more than likely going along with whatever he wanted. He's the boss and they generally have a strong respect for authority. I don't mean that to be offensive in any way. I'm not saying dissent is nonexistent in Japan or in SE's online division. I just think it's highly unlikely there was very much of it.

    The game went downhill because of 'Abyssea' and SE as much stated it when they told us "Abyssea was probably a mistake" in a public interview - still visible on Zam's website.
    "Mistake" is highly subjective. Developers are just as biased as anyone, and they certainly aren't infallible. To me, Abyssea is by far their best work and I'd gladly pay mucho dinero for more of it. In my mind the mistake is giving up on it too soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Subscription losses are generally a lagging indicator. If people were quitting around the heyday of Abyssea they were probably quitting for things related to pre-Abyssea. It's the post-Abyssea numbers you want.
    Yes, people quit for problems over the previous 8 years just after Abyssea was released. Giving a massive slump in players over a 12 month period. That makes perfect sense. Or could it be that not everyone thinks Abyssea was the game-saver that you think it was?

    I believe Subscriber numbers are even lower now than during Abyssea (or the same), so if your own argument is anything to go by - that doesn't look good for team-Abyssea.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    It's Japan. Anyone under him was more than likely going along with whatever he wanted. He's the boss and they generally have a strong respect for authority. I don't mean that to be offensive in any way. I'm not saying dissent is nonexistent in Japan or in SE's online division. I just think it's highly unlikely there was very much of it.
    Agreed to an extent, but I don't think he's arrogant enough to scream "BARANCE" at his team during every meeting about game development. He's been doing this long enough to know how it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    To me, Abyssea is by far their best work and I'd gladly pay mucho dinero for more of it. In my mind the mistake is giving up on it too soon.
    The joys of opinion. Abyssea seems to have very split opinion. I thought it was great, but in small doses. I wouldn't want any more of it though. Fortunately, the few details they did announce of SoA sounded good, specially the new battle/progress/zone systems.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 06-26-2012 at 11:34 PM.

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