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    Player Doctrine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Abyssea was never endgame, It was FILLER content designed to keep us busy and preparing for the return of an epic endgame. Tanaka OK'd it because he knew we would need great gear and weapons before they shell out new 99 endgame, and that's the reason abyssea was created. It was filler content, and they themselves stated, it was never intended to be endgame and the reward part of it was a MISTAKE, because it changed the mindset of the player base, and changing it back is going to take time. They are going to do everything they can to avoid abyssea level reward ratio in ffxi.

    In short, There will never be abyssea-Endgame. Abyssea wasa filler content that was too rewarding to a playerbase that is otherwise very unspoiled. They are slowly trying to change the mindset of the players expectations and willingness, and trust me, theyre gonna keep trying.
    The new producer isnt going to change anything in regards to the vision of ffxis endgame.
    in response ot the bolded: not gonna happen. they can try, and try, and try till the company is bankrupt, and it will never, ever change the masses minds.

    we've had a taste of a fun, rewarding, and relativley grind free endgame, even if it was never meant to be endgame.
    and ill wager that the community as a whole wants more.

    the game is more accessible to the masses now that it has ever been, and no one, not even the games creators, will ever be able to undo that. no amount of money, tweaks, fixes, or expansions will reverse what abyssea did: making the game more accessible to the masses. even if the next xpac tries to reverse that trend set bet abyssea, it will not succeed. sure it may have its own draws and attractions, but far too many people enjoy the post-abyssea game. i guarantee that if the enxt xpac is more zilart, more CoP, more toau, more wings, people will stay away and content themselves with abyssea.

    we've had a taste of the good life (in ffxi terms), pandoras box has been opened, and it can never be closed again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctrine View Post
    in response ot the bolded: not gonna happen. they can try, and try, and try till the company is bankrupt, and it will never, ever change the masses minds.
    Sorry but, it kinda is happening.

    Look at yourself for example. You're still playing, aren't you? What ENDGAME CONTENT isn't a grind? I assume you do endgame?


    You either enjoy it, or hate it.

    If you enjoy it, awesome. It worked!

    If you don't enjoy it, IT STILL WORKED because you're still here, lol.

    The masses are still playing ffxi, even while they throw really awful grinds at us. Now we have a new xpack coming, you think the grind is gonna stop? Lmao.

    Abyssea is not coming to endgame, ever. As long as the masses keep playing, that's all that matters.
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    Last edited by Benihana; 06-25-2012 at 08:18 PM.

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    The blame never solely rests with one person in a major company like this. How could anyone ever argue against that? I hope Tanaka recovers from whatever problems he is having.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habu View Post
    The blame never solely rests with one person in a major company like this. How could anyone ever argue against that? I hope Tanaka recovers from whatever problems he is having.
    Couldn't agree with this more.

    Like I said in my FFXIAH post:

    Seriously, some of you people should research how responsibilities are distributed in a game project before making all those negative comments. I have worked in a few games myself, MANY people take decisions, not just one person. Blame Hiromichi Tanaka all you want but the entire project team is to blame for what you hate or like, if you change the head of the team it's more than likely it won't change a thing.

    On that note, I hope Tanaka-San will recover from his illness and enjoy his retirement
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    Eh save for salvage i always thought ToAU was fairly rewarding, if it wern't for most gear added during 75 cap era were side grades that is.
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    You can enjoy your Abyssea all you want to Arallielle, but some of us are still thirsting for the way FFXI used to be. I'll be heading west while you're in Abyssea.
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    I think people might be exaggerating the impact that the producer has a little bit. I will admit that I have no idea what his duties were, but I seriously doubt he was the one "balancing" everything.
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    I hope you have a long life ahead of you Mr. Tanaka. Thanks for the memories!
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    Thanks Tanaka for you great job since 2002
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    I'd like to say Bye Bye Tanaka! Sorry to see ou go, you've made one hell of a game here.
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