FINAL FANTASY XI® Seekers of Adoulin

[Aldersyde]

However, since PC > console (at least PC > a decade old piece of crap) they're gonna start dropping PS2. You can still play FFXI on PS2. You just can't slow down progress or hurt the capabilities of yet another expansion by playing on PS2.

What are you taking about? You do know that they are making it for the JP PS2 right? That means that there's going to be the whatever inherent limitations you think there are going to be with this expansion as if they had released it for the NA PS2 because they still have to code a PS2 version. All SE is doing is pissing off a section of their playerbase for no good reason at a time when they're console games aren't exactly gangbusters in the NA market (FFXIII-2 was a pretty mediocore performer compared to other FFs). Great plan. Are you sure that profit is their primary motivator because from a business standpoint, this is an incredibly stupid decision. When you're selling an already pretty niche product, it's stupid to alienate ANY portion of your clientele, especially when part of the enjoyment of the game comes social relationships formed within the virtual world SE has created. But hey, I guess people just don't understand this concept of interconnectedness. I've already explained it once and won't explain it again.

There's absolutely no reason not to offer the expansion as a digital download; it's not like PS2 players aren't used to long download times. It may be laziness but it sure looks from a NA perspective as regional discrimination. I think SE are a little complacent and under the impression that their flagship FF games are still must play games in NA. I'm here to assure them that they're not. You can go to most gaming forums discussing the franchise and find this to be true.

Stop pissing off your customers.

[Zerich]

And yet if it wasn't coming out for PC many NA players would be in an uproar saying that its not fair that its only coming out for ps2 and xbox...Look the fact of the matter is we don't know if they are doing a downloadable version or not. It's all speculation at this point, they are releasing it only in Japan as a disc format because of the support they have for their consoles, ppl in america have no Idea what its like to live in an area were space is very limited, why do you think the original xbox failed so bad there. I personally prefer to play on console not because its better but to me pc runs to slow, and even when I resize everything I still have frame rate issues( cant get any higher then 10 fps and I have enough pc to run WoW flawlessly)If I truly wanted to play for graphics I'd get FFXIV or Rift but that's not why I play this MMO. I'm not saying they won't ever get rid Of ps2 support but by the time they do the game will be dead and ppl will move on to other MMO's, look at what happened to the original EQ, or UO for that matter, everything dies off after time or ppl get tired of the same crap over and over again. Would i love it to see them re tool the code and make the game better? Yes but that won't happen just like a remake of VII won't happen till just everyone just completely stops playing. If they truly did Optimize it for pc when it came out and only made it for pc then yes I would play it on pc but I cant bring myself to play it when I have less issues on console(even since I switched to 360) and futher more I think people forget that this is a Japanese based company and not an american one, they have a different look on how they handle game content, or for that matter if and when they decide if they want to re-release something.

And besides its still a year away, they might change their mind.

it's an MMO...ppl play MMO's on PCs...deal with it

[bungiefanNA]

Using a tv as a monitor wares ou the tv alot faster.

No it doesn't, considering HDTVs are computer monitors, just with a channel tuner and a couple more video inputs. Some screen technologies have been susceptible to burn-in, but that's fairly rare nowadays. LCD and LED screens can't suffer burn-in.

[Llana_Virren]

What are you taking about? You do know that they are making it for the JP PS2 right? That means that there's going to be the whatever inherent limitations you think there are going to be with this expansion as if they had released it for the NA PS2 because they still have to code a PS2 version. All SE is doing is pissing off a section of their playerbase for no good reason at a time when they're console games aren't exactly gangbusters in the NA market (FFXIII-2 was a pretty mediocore performer compared to other FFs). Great plan. Are you sure that profit is their primary motivator because from a business standpoint, this is an incredibly stupid decision. When you're selling an already pretty niche product, it's stupid to alienate ANY portion of your clientele, especially when part of the enjoyment of the game comes social relationships formed within the virtual world SE has created. But hey, I guess people just don't understand this concept of interconnectedness. I've already explained it once and won't explain it again.

There's absolutely no reason not to offer the expansion as a digital download; it's not like PS2 players aren't used to long download times. It may be laziness but it sure looks from a NA perspective as regional discrimination. I think SE are a little complacent and under the impression that their flagship FF games are still must play games in NA. I'm here to assure them that they're not. You can go to most gaming forums discussing the franchise and find this to be true.

Stop pissing off your customers.

Yes, and I consider this a step towards that final goal of no more PS2. Even if this dream never comes to fruition, knowing that there are fewer retarded NA players on PS2 makes me happy.

I know this comes off rather trollish, and I apologize, but my god, NA players have complained the most in 10 years about how they "deserve more from SE."

[Aldersyde]

Yes, and I consider this a step towards that final goal of no more PS2. Even if this dream never comes to fruition, knowing that there are fewer retarded NA players on PS2 makes me happy.

I know this comes off rather trollish, and I apologize, but my god, NA players have complained the most in 10 years about how they "deserve more from SE."

If you think SE will cut off its JP PS2 player base, you are stupid or delusional and likely both, but more probably just stupid. It makes me happy to know that you are wrong, wrong, wrong and that you chase a fruitless dream. JP PS2 support will continue past 2015 or 16 when Sony decides they're not going to support the platform at all. SE doesn't have the cahones to do otherwise.

And I have no idea what you're saying yes to. Try to work on your specificity and answer in complete sentences. See, I can be trollish too!

[Llana_Virren]

If you think SE will cut off its JP PS2 player base, you are stupid or delusional and likely both, but more probably just stupid. It makes me happy to know that you are wrong, wrong, wrong and that you chase a fruitless dream. JP PS2 support will continue past 2015 or 16 when Sony decides they're not going to support the platform at all. SE doesn't have the cahones to do otherwise.

^and this is exactly why I'm glad NAs can't PS2 in the expansion. Thank you for ignoring the actual message and being butthurt. I appreciate it.

[Aldersyde]

^and this is exactly why I'm glad NAs can't PS2 in the expansion. Thank you for ignoring the actual message and being butthurt. I appreciate it.

Brah, I play on PC and keep another account on my old ass PS2. But if you would had read the entire thread, you'd know that. Thanks for coming out!

Your post had an actual message? I interpreted it as "I hate PS2" and just kinda zoned out.Sorry, when I get bored, I make up my own stories.

[Llana_Virren]

Brah, I play on PC and keep another account on my old ass PS2. But if you would had read the entire thread, you'd know that. Thanks for coming out!

Your post had an actual message? I interpreted it as "I hate PS2" and just kinda zoned out.Sorry, when I get bored, I make up my own stories.

I don't hate PS2 at all... I just get sick and tired of players thinking that it's somehow "unfair" that PS2 isn't going to be maintained forever. It's old technology, plain and simple. That's why I stopped playing on PS2 back in 2004.

[Aldersyde]

I don't hate PS2 at all... I just get sick and tired of players thinking that it's somehow "unfair" that PS2 isn't going to be maintained forever. It's old technology, plain and simple. That's why I stopped playing on PS2 back in 2004.

But JP PS2 will likely be continued "for ever", because PC gaming just doesn't seem as big as console gaming in Japan. So the only thing you're really supporting is regional discrimination. If someone can prove me wrong on console vs. PC numbers, than do so, because I don't think any of you can.

[Jackstin]

But JP PS2 will likely be continued "for ever", because PC gaming just doesn't seem as big as console gaming in Japan. So the only thing you're really supporting is regional discrimination. If someone can prove me wrong on console vs. PC numbers, than do so, because I don't think any of you can.

Discrimination is a very VERY strong word for what is going on here. Sony didn't release the HDD for PS2. Ooh its regional discrimination. Final Fantasy XIII was released a few months later in the west, OOH its regional discrimination. This is why people are calling you 'butt hurt' (although I hate that term); because you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

You are right, there are lots of JP PS2 players so it would be unfair to drop PS2 support and ask them to upgrade. In the West hardly anyone plays on PS2. A lot of those who do only do so on PS3. And here's the important thing. You can still play this game on your PS2/3 just not the new expansion. Its unreasonable to ask SE to release this expansion on another platform just for you and a couple of your friends who like to dual box. I think you are all underestimating how much that costs.