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    Questions about the VanaFest Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway

    First of all, the NA thread lists 250 rank 2 winners, 1000 rank 3 winners and 5000 rank 4 winners, while the EU thread reduces that to a pessimistic 25 rank 2 winners, 100 rank 3 winners and 500 rank 4 winners. Which one of them is correct?

    Secondly:
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The “Golden Gobbiebag I” winner will be selected from a combination of North America and Europe participants. All other winners will be selected by region.
    Does that mean that NA and EU will each get 250 (or 25) rank 2 winners, 1000 (100) rank 3 and 5000 (500) rank 4? Or that an equal amount will be selected from each region?
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    only 1 rank 1 winner selected from a combination of america and europe
    250 NA rank2 winner + 25 EU rank 2winner
    .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    First of all, the NA thread lists 250 rank 2 winners, 1000 rank 3 winners and 5000 rank 4 winners, while the EU thread reduces that to a pessimistic 25 rank 2 winners, 100 rank 3 winners and 500 rank 4 winners. Which one of them is correct?

    Secondly:


    Does that mean that NA and EU will each get 250 (or 25) rank 2 winners, 1000 (100) rank 3 and 5000 (500) rank 4? Or that an equal amount will be selected from each region?
    1. Is there only 1 chance per account.

    Restrictions
    Only one entry can be made per Square Enix account.
    Japan users mog lottery get 10 chances per character over lvl X. Does the EU and US characters have the same opportunity per character over level X while the Japanese get up to 180 chances? NO! These extra characters people purchased should receive the same number of chances as the Japan counterparts this just shows favoritism.

    2. With the limitation on how many can win per rank. Does the Mog Japan lottery have a limitation on the number of rank wins? My guess is again a big NO. Here's how I see it. If the mog lottery gave out had 10 rank 1 prizes the EU and US should have EQUAL prizes given out.

    If the Japan counterparts get top rank one wins while US and EU combined are limited to one win How is this balanced? The sad fact that anyone would even consider this is a loss of reality. This would definitively prove to even the most ignorant how the community is segregated by making one event inferior.

    What does it take to open the eyes of both SE and the players. Some have become sympathizers trying to make excuses and put the dirt under a rug. If you feel your getting the smallest stick like I mentioned above I strongly encurage you to STAND UP for yourself, grow some balls and say something about it. By ignoring the obvious unfairness you only encourage it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    1. Is there only 1 chance per account.

    Japan users mog lottery get 10 chances per character over lvl X. Does the EU and US characters have the same opportunity per character over level X. while the US and EU only get one. These extra characters people purchased should receive the same number of chances as the Japan counterparts otherwise it shows favoritism.

    2. With the limitation on how many can ranks. does the Mog Japan lottery have a limitation on the number of rank wins? My guess is no.. Here's how I see it. If the mog lottery had 10 rank 1 prizes the EU and US should have EQUAL prizes given out.

    If the Japan counterparts get top rank one wins while US and EU combined are limited to one win How is this balanced? The sad fact that anyone would even consider this is a loss of reality. This would definitively prove to even the most ignorant how the community is segregated.

    What does it take to open the eyes of both SE and the players. Some have become sympathizers trying to make excuses and put the dirt under a rug.

    There is no IN-GAME BONANZA for JP player, only VANAFEST BONANZA
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    Oh, really. the way I read it there was one please. Let me look for that link.


    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...603#post324603

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    As many of you seem to be curious about the status of the Nomad Mog Bonanza, I’d like to take a moment to explain the current situation.

    The North America and European Community Teams have been working diligently preparing for the Nomad Mog Bonanza, but unfortunately due to changing times and differing global laws, we will not be able to hold a Mog Bonanza for NA and EU regions moving forward.

    While Japan will hold the Nomad Mog Bonanza at VanaFest 2012, it will mark the final Mog Bonanza of Vana’diel. Furthermore, to make sure that our players in North America and Europe aren't left out, we will be holding a separate event where players will be able to win similar prizes (all the goodies from tier 1, tier 2, and tier3…plus a bunch of other rare in-game items), so rest assured we will be giving you a good opportunity to make all your Vana’diel dreams come true!


    Also, even though the Mog Bonanza will be gone, we will be offering a different event for our end of the year celebration for a chance to win the items of your dreams!

    We will be announcing the NA/EU event very shortly, so hang tight and look forward to it!
    Please explain because this post says differently. I may be wrong but, this post clearly says we get a seperate event. Like I said in the past seperate isn't always equal.
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    may be wrong, but i think he talk about:
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post

    I have an update in regards to the Random Deal event that was announced for VanaFest 2012.

    Item revamp
    We have decided to remove the below items from the pool of items that can be received with the purchasable tags:

    Bonanza Kupon RW/Bonanza Kupon MW/Bonana Kupon EW

    While the amount of these items were such that it would not affect game balance or economic balance, based on everyone’s feedback we decided to remove them.

    We apologize to everyone who was concerned or looking forward to this, but we appreciate your understanding.


    Also, here is some information about the policies related to this event.

    Number of times you can play
    Players can only have a single Random Deal each time they play. While there are no limitations on the amount of times a player can play throughout the day, each play will require you to line up again (i.e. play once then move to the back of the line). This is to ensure that everyone has a chance.

    Number of metal tags
    We’ve prepared a good amount of metal tags, but there is a finite amount for each day, so once the prepared amount for the day runs out the event will close.

    To ensure that players coming on the first and second day have a chance to play, there will be separate amounts set aside for each day.

    Reselling
    The reselling of item codes is prohibited and we ask that you do not do this. In the event that reselling is discovered, the item code will become void or if the code has already been used the item will be taken away.

    Also, in order to prevent reselling, the item code expiration dates have been set to a short duration.


    We apologize for changing the bonus items after making our initial announcement, but we would like to create an event that a large amount of people can enjoy and welcome everyone after making the properly preparations.
    and taht is not an in game bonanza

    if they actually have a bonanza like we all got last years then you're totally right
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    may be wrong, but i think he talk about:


    and taht is not an in game bonanza

    if they actually have a bonanza like we all got last years then you're totally right
    Again this still doesn't alleviate the distinct overwhelming differences between the quality/quantity of separate events. That is the main problem here.

    They could easily made this event universal. NO LAWS ARE BROKEN and everyone gets treated the same.

    Sell the players a level 10 bonanza sword and that would activate on a random enemy type when it's killed. Base types plant, vermin, beast, or aquarn. Once that is activated the item can be traded back for a prizes at a later date. This item would give 10 chances at a reward with at least one low ranking item.

    Not a lottery at this point, it's a quest that can give good rewards.

    If this was being done for all regions it would be balanced. (Unless some behind the scenes manipulation was taking place).
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    Ok so EU and NA get 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner total. Japan gets 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner in and of itself? I guess by SE reasoning that's fair. I guess you're going by total user population per region or something.

    Why is the new Heroine's Battle access being so limited? I know I'll never win a R/M/E or pulse armor and I couldn't care less about ark weapons or that godawful moogle suit, but I would very much like to be able to do the new fight.

    At least with the old Mog Bonanza one could guarantee themselves a Rank 5 prize by choosing their numbers properly while more than likely sacrificing a chance at higher tier prizes. Now, there's a good chance most of us will never see the inside of the new battlefield if this is the sole means of orb distribution. That's kinda screwed up.

    I know I'm just shouting into the wind as far as the devs go and will probably be told in various ways to stop whining by my fellow posters, but it would be nice if we could all get Athena Orbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Ok so EU and NA get 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner total. Japan gets 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner in and of itself? I guess by SE reasoning that's fair. I guess you're going by total user population per region or something.
    The Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway is the alternative event for NA and EU users that are unable to participate in the Nomad Mog Bonanza. There isn't a Japanese version of the GGG, as they have the Nomad Mog Bonanza.

    Why is the new Heroine's Battle access being so limited? I know I'll never win a R/M/E or pulse armor and I couldn't care less about ark weapons or that godawful moogle suit, but I would very much like to be able to do the new fight. At least with the old Mog Bonanza one could guarantee themselves a Rank 5 prize by choosing their numbers properly while more than likely sacrificing a chance at higher tier prizes. Now, there's a good chance most of us will never see the inside of the new battlefield if this is the sole means of orb distribution. That's kinda screwed up.
    Our goal is to give the orb out to as many players as possible in the future, and this giveaway is only the beginning of that. As for the "guaranteed rank 5 prize", as I said in a previous reply, this isn't a replacement for Mog Bonanza, and does not function the same way (users can purchase marbles with different digits to try and guarantee a rank 5 prize). In the future, we'll be evaluating how to give away the fun things that have been included in Bonanzas throughout the years (statues, event battlefields, etc.)

    I know I'm just shouting into the wind as far as the devs go and will probably be told in various ways to stop whining by my fellow posters, but it would be nice if we could all get Athena Orbs.
    You're not shouting in the wind - we're here. Hopefully my explanation above can give some insight into the thought process, but like I said, we'll be continuing to look for ways to get content like the Heroines' Holdfast out to many players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway is the alternative event for NA and EU users that are unable to participate in the Nomad Mog Bonanza. There isn't a Japanese version of the GGG, as they have the Nomad Mog Bonanza.
    I see. I was thinking that the GGG would be the permanent replacement for the large-scale Mog Bonanza we're all used to having every so often. Instead it's just our version of the Vanafest event. Thanks for the clarification.

    Our goal is to give the orb out to as many players as possible in the future, and this giveaway is only the beginning of that. As for the "guaranteed rank 5 prize", as I said in a previous reply, this isn't a replacement for Mog Bonanza, and does not function the same way (users can purchase marbles with different digits to try and guarantee a rank 5 prize). In the future, we'll be evaluating how to give away the fun things that have been included in Bonanzas throughout the years (statues, event battlefields, etc.)
    I understand, and I look forward to these future methods. I would ask of the devs and whoever else is involved that whatever processes are created should be simple, elegant, and fair. Things do tend to get a bit convoluted and confusing around here sometimes as you can see.


    You're not shouting in the wind - we're here. Hopefully my explanation above can give some insight into the thought process, but like I said, we'll be continuing to look for ways to get content like the Heroines' Holdfast out to many players.
    My shouting in the wind comment wasn't directed at the reps. You're not the ones I take issue with. I'll just leave it at that.
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