Arch-Omega/Ultima Armor

[Demon6324236]

AF3+2 is equally easy to obtain for all 20 jobs and is basically the best gear for all DDs still.

...What? Nyzul gear, Ogier's gear, these are both good for DDs, not MNK, MNK is in light DD gear. Ogier's you get hands with +10STP, Nyzul gear has Haste & STP all over the place, WS damage+ in both of these sets, body for Nyzul & legs for Ogier's. AF3+2 might be good but best? No way, much better gear out there, just harder to get.

However, MNK? Yes, most MNKs will hang out in AF3+2 because with Black Belt you easily cap haste, there is no need to mix gear or attempt to hit the cap because your belt does all of this for you easily. Then again, there is surely better, I may not be a MNK but the Nyzul Body has got to be the best TP body for you with the DA/TA/QA I'm sure. Black Belt has +12% Haste giving MNK a wide verity of options for gear otherwise. This set I made shows this, it caps haste, uses almost nothing AF for MNK, gives you a total of +22 Double Attack, +8% Triple Attack, and 3% Quad Attack, along with some nice attack & just a little accuracy.

Note:There is no need to tell me this set sucks or what not, I already expect it to suck because I was going off what knowledge I have of MNK gear when I built it, however I use it because I think it makes my point in this comment.

[Demon6324236]

SAM is probably better the WAR, i just know their DMG output potential exceeds MNK.

Might I ask, what damage do you go by? Weapon skill damage, damage delt by auto-attack, or overall damage? I wont lie MNK probably does pump out some of the biggest overall numbers because massive auto-attack amount with good WS damage.

[wish12oz]

AF3+2 is equally easy to obtain for all 20 jobs and is basically the best gear for all DDs still.

lol.........

[MarkovChain]

MNK gear.

AF3+2 body / legs / feet are unbeatable. Nohmkappa are unbeatble. Thaumas coat is worse than what it looks, multiple attack prevent each other to happen so IIRC it's ends up to be about equivalent to 15% DA. When factoring impetus and the attack/str/delay on the AF3+2 body thaumas is only good without impetus. Basically due to the state of the game your are unlikely to kill a mob outside impetus but even if you hapen to do it, AF3+2 body is almost has good as the combo thaumas head/body for TP.

Thaumas headpiece is actually the only worthwile nyzul piece for TP, other pieces are side grade for WS. Only toci's harness and ganesha mask are decent among VW ; toci being the best shijin WS gear (lol) and ganesha he best heapiece WS usually (unless using augmented shura / thaumas coat).

[Natenn]

Kogara SAM > Conq WAR > Ukon/Rag WAR > Amano SAM > Masamune SAM > Rag/Apoc DRK > Vere MNK.


All of these are better then MNK assuming all weaps are 99/best gear sets/person using them isn't dumb. So really MNK is 9th or worse in overall DDing, might move up 3 or 4 spots in situations w/o a brd, cor, or both but there is a 0% chance MNK is #1 DD because i assure you aftermath for Kogara/Conq is well above any # any MNK can put up.

[Demon6324236]

multiple attack prevent each other to happen so IIRC it's ends up to be about equivalent to 15% DA.

I think you thinking of Occasionally Attacks Twice and that type of weapon? Those conflict with your DA/TA/QA yes, Double Attack & Triple Attack do nothing against each other, it means overall you will have a 33% chance to attack more than 1 time, 3% chance it will be 3 more hits, 8% chance it will be 2 more, and 22% that it will be 1 more hit. Body is good however does not help TP gain much at all, I was talking about purely for TP gain itself with the extra attack being a bonus, where Thaumas is better. Legs are good as well, I am not sure if kick attacks add to TP, if they do then take off Calmecac put on Tantra+2 take off Ganesha's and put on Thaumas head, if not then again, not better for TP gain in general. To add though this is only for the Crit+ really, to stack on even more Double Attack you can go with Kacura Cap +1which has some DEX & Eva, but mainly provides +2% more Double Attack. How are feet better than Thaumas? DEX mainly makes up for the no +acc, the attack makes up for the no +STR, double attack makes it better for TP gain, I don't understand that.

[Shadowsong]

As much as I dislike Pchan, he usually isnt this retarded when it comes to his statements. Such a fanatic lol

[MarkovChain]

I think you thinking of Occasionally Attacks Twice and that type of weapon? Those conflict with your DA/TA/QA yes, Double Attack & Triple Attack do nothing against each other.

Obviously they do hinder each other...

[Demon6324236]

Obviously they do hinder each other...

You want to show me proof of it? In abyssea my RDM has roughly +45% Double Attack, 20% Triple Attack, my attacks reflect these numbers. Using OAT weapons with DA/TA do not work together well, they do conflict.

The gear set I gave you has no conflicting stats against multi-attacks.

[Monchat]

they obviously hinder each other ( cannot have tripple and double attack at once for example.), and tripple attack is checked before double attack. if you have 20% TA and 45% DA, your multihit rate with one hand is

0.20*3+0.80*0,45*2+0.80*0.55*1=1.76.

io its equivalent to 76% double attack, or 38% triple attack.