[byr1001] Uncapping the Merit Point Categories

[Arcon]

The whole idea behind merit points is to offer many choices and allow players to choose based on their preferences. This way, even though it’s the same job amongst everyone, their proficiencies and roles are different. With that said, by totally removing the cap from merit points, the fundamental purpose would be lost.

We all know that. No one is arguing that it goes against the idea behind it. We're arguing that the idea itself is bad. If an idea is immensely disliked by the community, the development team should take a hint and do something about it. Their game philosophy is not immediately the best philosophy just because they're the creators. Please let them know that we do understand the purpose and intention of the merit system, but that we don't agree with it. Specialization is not meant to be in this game, nothing else supports that. The job system itself goes strictly against it, as does the ability to switch gear at will, two of the most defining properties of this game.

[Dragoy]

I as well am of the opinion that there is no point limiting them really.

While the purpose and reasoning is clear, and understandable, the cold fact is that it does indeed not make for more diverse characters since nearly everyone will merit the same things for same jobs. It's simply how the game works; there usually is no reason to not merit just those things.

I would love to see a reply to regarding this particular argument.

[Emitremmus]

I think something to help alleviate this problem would be to actually be able to get refunded merit points when you lower a skill. That way if you're RDM and you know you're going to need to have a proficiency in Ice Magic/Paralyze II for example, then you would be able to merit accordingly for the situation. This method involves no loss of uniqueness and allow you to keep current caps in place.

Also on a side note, I think there should be more uses for merits than through the current methods. They are used for limit break quests, so there is no argument that they cannot be used to say purchase some kind of unique items or access to battlefields. It kind of sucks to sit there and be capped out on merits when you could be using them for something at least.

[Demon6324236]

Not mad, pointing out adjustments I think should be made to your ideas, giving my own opinion. Me being mad does not happen often, and when I am mad, I am stupid, take the time I was fighting with Fupa in the NNI thread over in Battle Content, that is me being mad, this is just me trying to give better ideas so on the 0.0001% chance SE looks into ideas we have here, they will potentially be better ideas in the end.

[Kojo]

Not mad, pointing out adjustments I think should be made to your ideas, giving my own opinion. Me being mad does not happen often, and when I am mad, I am stupid, take the time I was fighting with Fupa in the NNI thread over in Battle Content, that is me being mad, this is just me trying to give better ideas so on the 0.0001% chance SE looks into ideas we have here, they will potentially be better ideas in the end.

Oh, my bad. Go on then.

[Byrth]

In light of this:

Good morning everyone!

Hello everyone.

Thanks for all of the "likes" and messages in response to the post I made the other day!

As I wrote in the Message from the Producer, there is a ton to catch up on from the past two years and I've been doing my best each day to do just that. However, even if I do my best I don’t think this gap is something that I can completely fill by myself, so I would really appreciate everyone's help.

Now then, I'd like you all to tell me what you would like me to focus on. Anything is fine.

However, I would like you to keep in mind and agree to the following:

Do not attack or flame others, including myself.
Be specific and concrete. We won't be able to accomplish anything if posts are unclear or full of attacks.
Instead of saying what you "don’t want," tell me what you "want."
Tell me what it is that YOU prefer. Not what your friends or linkshell members say, I want to hear from you specifically.


Please make your posts as a reply to this thread (I will also be taking into consideration the amount of "likes" each post receives). As a general rule, feedback should be posted in the appropriate thread, so once we collected enough post in this thread and after an appropriate amount of time, we'll close the thread. Also please limit replies to your opinions only and if you would like to discuss specific points, please utilize appropriate threads for each topic.

I will be doing my best to look over each and every post made. (Though, I am sure it will take some time…) Your opinions will definitely play a part in helping me fill in the gap from these past two years as well as for thinking about the future of FINAL FANTASY XI.

In addition to the work for currently scheduled version updates, there is also a lot of work to be done for the new expansion, "Seeker of Adoulin," so I don’t think there will be very many things we can do immediately and I’d like to apologize for that.

Also, I don’t believe it will be possible to have every single thing come to fruition, due to the fact that there may be content that is contradictory or things that no matter how hard we try it is just not feasible.

I will first be making sure that I accurately understand what you would like and then will determine if it is possible or not, and assign a priority level to it. I will be sharing this with you all and making it so together we can see the picture of how FINAL FANTASY XI will change going forward. I feel this is something the community needs and though it might not be quite so easy, it is a method I would like to adopt.

Thank you very much!

I’d like to share a message from Producer Akihiko Matsui:

I declare bump!

[Zhronne]

I think Matsui wants us to put all these ideas into the thread he opened though. Byrth why don't you sum up your initial post and post it there on that thread? Also putting a link to this thread for further and more detailed explanation.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I think Matsui wants us to put all these ideas into the thread he opened though. Byrth why don't you sum up your initial post and post it there on that thread? Also putting a link to this thread for further and more detailed explanation.

Just copy paste it I know I'll like.

[Clou777]

i think there should be a quest after everything has been merited which allows you to merit the character stats after a LOT of merits have been gained and would have a relic/mythic/empyrean type feel to it, for example: each 5000 merits will gain you an extra merit into say 10HP, 10MP, 1 STR, 1 DEX, 1 VIT etc so there would be almost no end to how much you can power up your character over a very long time

[Clou777]

maybe one day will have some dragon ball z fan saying "HIS HP.... ITS OVER 9000 !!!"