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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Yeah, no problem!

    I've noticed that many people seem to suggest other merit system alterations. The reasons that I focused on uncapping as opposed to some other option are:
    1) They've shown themselves to be capable of raising the category caps and have done it multiple times.
    2) Making a more complicated system (like here, here, or here) would require effort and resources that the FFXI team seems unable to afford at the moment.

    If they wanted to invest a lot of time and effort making a merit system that encouraged specialization, I would disagree with them philosophically due to FFXI's character development model (See point B2). I mean, regardless of how complicated a system you make (paths, well-balanced abilities, etc.) there will only be one optimal set of merits for a given situation. For me, the absolute worst possible case would be if the merit system was balanced and important enough that people were actually re-meriting between events. It would be like getting an XP buffer at 75 so you can keep doing Dynamis, except it would be getting a merit point buffer so you can keep switching your merits around for your Legion night and then Voidwatch night and then Odin v2 night. I'd hate it.
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    @Byrth: more like if they intended us constantly change up our merits on the fly the point cap would be larger and the cost to upgrade would be less there by supporting a more dynamic upgrade system.
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    You make a good point with the unable/unwilling Dev Team, Byrth.
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    Player Thore's Avatar
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    Bum.... I mean... this is a good idea, it would give lots of people something to do.
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    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Version update in 3 days!

    Lets bump Merits maximums.
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    Arma up next!

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    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    I mean, regardless of how complicated a system you make (paths, well-balanced abilities, etc.) there will only be one optimal set of merits for a given situation. For me, the absolute worst possible case would be if the merit system was balanced and important enough that people were actually re-meriting between events. It would be like getting an XP buffer at 75 so you can keep doing Dynamis, except it would be getting a merit point buffer so you can keep switching your merits around for your Legion night and then Voidwatch night and then Odin v2 night. I'd hate it.
    I'm under the impression that if they ever added special merits that were that important, they would make them like the WS merits in that it's basically impossible to re-spec in between LS events because of the merit point storage cap unless you grind dozens of merits between the event days. I don't think a lot of people would be keen on joining LSs that require you to do that.
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    Player Kari's Avatar
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    Fenrir
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    I'd like to be able to use merits to continue doing content.
    Like trading merits to reduce the cooldown of Assault Tags, Meeble Sacks, Remnants Permits, etc.
    That way if I wanted to spam Salvage or something, I could go join a party for merits so I could enter more often, rather than logging out for a day.
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    Player Toadie-Odie's Avatar
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I'd like to be able to use merits to continue doing content.
    Like trading merits to reduce the cooldown of Assault Tags, Meeble Sacks, Remnants Permits, etc.
    That way if I wanted to spam Salvage or something, I could go join a party for merits so I could enter more often, rather than logging out for a day.
    I really like this idea. It would give merits a purpose for the players that are done meriting the jobs they wish to merit. I realize this has nothing to do with uncapping merit catagories, but seeming how they are resistant to that idea - to which I understand to some extent - it would give players something extra to work for and work with. One way to look at it is a way of saying thank you to the player base for still playing.
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    Each person is an individual being, capable of independent thought and unique emotion, deserving respect, dignity, and compassion in all things, at all times, and in all places.

    To do anything else denies the self of its humanity.

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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I'd like to be able to use merits to continue doing content.
    Like trading merits to reduce the cooldown of Assault Tags, Meeble Sacks, Remnants Permits, etc.
    That way if I wanted to spam Salvage or something, I could go join a party for merits so I could enter more often, rather than logging out for a day.
    Oh this is a good suggestion.
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    Player Freebytes's Avatar
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    I would actually like to see some soloable Seekers quests that would allow you to uncap your merits in certain categories. That would give a very strong incentive to do certain quests or quest lines. Now, by soloable, I do not mean that it will be easy. I simply mean that it should not be impossible.
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