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    Player Dragoy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    I do find myself questioning the great apparent need to enforce the "no criticism" clause, but I do so in only a positive and constructive way!
    Agreed. I also find it very, VERY silly if that what you had in the signature was indeed a reason for action for them...
    I mean come ooon. >.>

    All these years and it never occurred to me that it looked like an onion (a star onion?). I always assumed it was an acorn...
    Heh, well I think I thought of it as an onion at first/always I guess. Acorn might be more accurate, though.

    S.O.B., good point. Perhaps a Star Onion Brigadier indeed...
    One of my earliest quests ever completed, ha!
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    ...or so the legend says.


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    ok, why do I get this sense of an impending "Bitch-Slap of Doom!"?

    phear the pimp hand... it may come for you
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    Please report all the Doomsday prophets, ty
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    The Square Enix Staff uses an ugly model in game, has a thumbnail that doesn't even match the item, can only be equipped by jobs that would never use it, has pathetic stats for its level, and has much too low a drop rate.
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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    After further research, I think I've devised something of a decision matrix/flowchart for posting!
    • You may not "damage or disparage" the company, the forum, the game, or "others." That last category seems to include "each other."
    • As for "criticism," only "Square Enix staff or specific individuals" are protected. Again, this seems to include "each other" (boy, those mods must be a busy lot!). However, this still leaves the game itself, as well as these forums, open to criticism!

    Also open to criticism are groups (not "specific individuals") and apparently any other aspect of Square Enix that can't be described as "staff" (contractors? suppliers? shareholders?).

    Of course, the difference between "criticize" and "disparage" is probably up to the "discretion" of Square Enix. Mods' will be done, on forums as it is in game...
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    Nothing in the above post is intended to disparage Square Enix or FINAL FANTASY XI, or to criticize Square Enix staff; such behavior would be a violation of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Any such violations of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement should be reported to Square Enix immediately, by using the "Report Post" icon in the bottom-left of forum posts.

    No Moogles were harmed in the making in this post. Stars save the Sibyl!

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    last I checked as long as you keep it civil you can criticize anything on these forums, that being against the rules would go against the point of these forums to begin with

    besides that, if you have a real problem with a staff member, the forums isn't the place to put it, the higher ups of SE aren't likely going to read the forums unless a problem is brought to their attention, calling out said staff member on the forums would be pointless
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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    last I checked as long as you keep it civil you can criticize anything on these forums,
    "De facto" and "de jure" are two different things. I already provided a link where you can read for yourself the letter of the Agreement you signed.

    besides that, if you have a real problem with a staff member
    From my own direct experience, I can tell you that "Square Enix staff" seems to include the staff as a whole (e. g. no criticizing "the devs") as well as individual staff members. Criticizing FINAL FANTASY XI itself is implicitly permitted, but anything more "meta" than that (such as Square Enix's publishing or staffing decisions, which are external to the game itself) is not allowed in these forums.
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    Nothing in the above post is intended to disparage Square Enix or FINAL FANTASY XI, or to criticize Square Enix staff; such behavior would be a violation of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Any such violations of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement should be reported to Square Enix immediately, by using the "Report Post" icon in the bottom-left of forum posts.

    No Moogles were harmed in the making in this post. Stars save the Sibyl!

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    So an actual worthwhile thread like the one on .dat's goes, yet this pointless junk created by someone who's just mad they got banned is still around, how?
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    1. critisism for a major company like SE is needed, and actually a good thing.
    it tells the ppl in charge that either:

    A. they are fuckin up and need to get their asses back on the ball cause ppl are unhappy with their service/product, giving them the incentive to fix things that are wrong.

    B. reinforces ideas that the company has made in a positive light when they are received well by the community/consumers, thus giving themselves a road to follow in order to come up with new ideas to make their service/product even better.

    2. alot of the critisism on these forums is quite warranted as SE over the past year has shown it's playerbase that they simply do not in any way care about our opinions or ideas that can make their own product achieve more success.

    nor do they care about what the community/consumers want, as we have been ignored time and time again, even when we have offered viable solutions to problems they are having. simply put, our ideas aren't their ideas, thus they will not be used or it will hurt their over-glorified sense of pride...

    3. somebody got butthurt cause you offended them somehow and busted your balls, now you're butthurt because of this in retrospect. my only advice to both you and whichever lil peon whom got his feelings hurt: suck it up buttercup, stop bein a sissy....
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    Last edited by Zyla420; 06-14-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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    Res ipsa loquitor lorem ipsum loquitor.

    You can't even call this revenge or anything. It's just spiteful and childish snitching. "BUT TIMMY HAS FIRECRACKERS TOO"
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    Last edited by Chamaan; 06-15-2012 at 07:25 AM.

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