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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    honestly, if you don't really understand what you yourself did wrong, you only create more hostility toward yourself by doing this kind of thing
    There was no "argument" and, with the offending post being a single sentence about 15 words long, no opportunity for confusion about exactly what it was I did wrong. My sarcastic tone warranted the moderators' invoking of the "negative impact" rule, but the "criticising Square Enix staff" rule could only have applied in the broadest possible sense: speaking ill of man-hour distribution between XI and XIV is verboten.

    Suggesting that rules enforcement around here is random and haphazard is, by itself, against the rules. Therefore, the only thing left to do is try to aid consistent and even-handed enforcement, while encouraging others to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    There was no "argument" and, with the offending post being a single sentence about 15 words long, no opportunity for confusion about exactly what it was I did wrong. My sarcastic tone warranted the moderators' invoking of the "negative impact" rule, but the "criticising Square Enix staff" rule could only have applied in the broadest possible sense: speaking ill of man-hour distribution between XI and XIV is verboten.

    Suggesting that rules enforcement around here is random and haphazard is, by itself, against the rules. Therefore, the only thing left to do is try to aid consistent and even-handed enforcement, while encouraging others to do the same.
    You got spanked and, pretty much, no one cares. People are not going to start hitting the report button like crazy because, again, no one cares. Take your punishment like a man (or woman) and quit crying. It's not like everyone is blind to what you are hoping will happen. Get on with your life.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randwolf View Post
    It's not like everyone is blind to what you are hoping will happen.
    Good, because I can't say it out loud without violating the Square Enix Account Terms of Use.
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    I can say it, you're hoping everyone who says something against SE staff will end up butt hurt like you, you really are just wasting energy with this because, the only one's that agree with you had the same happen to them already, move on, it isn't worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    I can say it, you're hoping everyone who says something against SE staff will end up butt hurt like you
    No, that's not it at all. Please try again.
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    I love how you select the parts you like and ignore the rest of the post, it isn't worth it, what you are attempting wont likely even make a dent, good luck though
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    I agree with him (I saw the 'offending' post as well I think, and it's ridonkulous actually that it would ever warrant a punishment of any kind here, or anywhere else). And no, I've not had any such thing happen to myself.

    Calling him 'butt-hurt' and all that is definitely far from constructive, as well as from adding anything to the conversation about the issue.


    Disclaimer: I do not know Ziyyigo-Tipyigo in any ways except from what I have seen him or her or other posting here; this is simply my opinion. There are several more appropriate ways it could have been handled, how I would have handled it, but of course, this is not my forum ^^;

    Just hoping they will do everything in their power to be 'balanced', and I'm quite sure they do, but I still see what happened here as a pretty silly thing...


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    I didn't see the offending post, and even if it was something that i honestly wouldn't feel should warrant a punishment, shit happens. the OP is being "butt-hurt" in a sense cause all he's doing is crying saying "this happened to me, and not everyone else that does it!".

    lemme put it another way, if you're speeding going 65 mph in a 45 mph zone, and a cop pulls you over but didn't see the asshole that flew past you doin 80, does that change the fact that you're still in trouble and getting a fine? no it doesn't. is it fair? no it isn't. whining to the cop about it is only gonna piss him off, whining to ppl you know only makes them want to get away from you cause you're complaining that life isn't fair. of course life isn't fair, it sucks, you learn to deal with it and move on.
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    ~(¯°¯)~

    I don't think an example of speeding compares to anything like this at all, but yeah, I know what you mean, and of course it is as you say. It's not that I was saying you're wrong or anything, or that I believe that this thread actually can better things as these things aren't really open for discussion (could easily see the thread get locked/removed completely).

    Guess you could say that I see the thread as a kind of a joke. That is not to belittle the seriousness of it, but I don't really see it being able to do any good (nor harm), or change the way they think about their policies and all. What I guess I'm trying to say, there are lots of 'worse' threads around here than this, and I doubt Ziyyigo-Tipyigo is as hurt as some might think (could just as well be, too).


    Meh, too sleepy-tired to make any sense even in my own mind so I will apologise beforehand for any possible head-aches ensuing from trying to read this.
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    imo i think speeding analogy was a completely logical comparison, 2 or more ppl broke rules, only one got caught and is now mad at the lack of fairness. again this is my own opinion, and you could be right, this entire thread could be a giant joke and the OP could be laughin his ass off at the amount of seriousness being put into it. who knows?
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